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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 141 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And still, I’m more likely to stop using YouTube than to stop using an ad blocker.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's what they want. Get all the users they aren't able to monetize off the platform to lower their costs.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I mean, I like a good Google hate train as much as the next guy, but that's kind of a legitimate thing to want.

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[–] lloram239@feddit.de 133 points 11 months ago (22 children)

I'll never understand why they spend so much effort pushing ads into people's faces that don't want see them and so little making ads more attractive.

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads. Every Youtuber holding a product into the camera is an ad. And people want to watch that. They want to know what new products are out there. It just has to presented appropriately.

Forced ads with mandatory 5sec isn't making people interested in your product, heck, numerous times I might have been interested in a product, but lost interested since I couldn't rewind the ad or because the ad didn't link to anything that gave me further information. A 15min video from a Youtuber reviewing a product in detail is way more effective than any regular ad I have ever seen, yet there are almost no ads in that style.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Too be honest I was fine with seeing an ad every few videos. But at some point it became unskippable ads before , during and after a video.

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago (15 children)

I never had an issue with YT's 1-2 skipable ads at the beginning, or even the banner ad. But they got greedy.

The midrolls and the unskipable ads was the trigger point for me.

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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads

That’s what grinds my gears. I understand ads pay bills, but showing multiple ads before a trailer for a video game or movie is excessive.

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[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There is potentially a world in which you want to see ads because ads themselves do technically provide a service. You do want to know about things you care about and would want to buy… you just don’t want it obnoxiously shoved into your face all of the time in psychologically manipulative ways.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Look at the way ads used to look "back in the day", with details about the product, its features, and reasons you would actually want to buy it. New tractor model, this many HP, pulls 4 bottom plow, burns this much diesel per hour, buy now and grow more corn.

However it turned out that it worked better just to try to trick people into buying a product that they didn't need, and that's how we got the ads we have today.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 99 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really wish government would just come in already and shatter google into a million pieces with the anti-monopoly hammer already.

Google is far worse than AT&T ever was when it was shattered into the baby bells.

Just gotta learn from AT&T to not let them re-congeal back together like somekind of fucked up liquid metal terminator 20+ years down the line.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

50% of congress wants to know how the computer mouse stays alive without food.

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 90 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Frankly, I'd stop using YouTube entirely before I'd start using it without an adblocker. At least there are no signs of it slowing down for me, yet.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'd consider paying a few bucks a month, but not $10 or more

Get rid of shitty YouTube music and give me a tier that's no ads only

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is precisely why Premium Lite was killed off, it did exactly what you are looking for.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 89 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Watching YouTube load slowly is better than watching ads.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 80 points 11 months ago (19 children)

I will download videos then. I refuse to not use an adblocker on the modern internet.

[–] muh_entitlement@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pirate everything, it's the only way to show greedy corporations the content should be free.

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[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"We'll make our service worse, that'll show them!"

Ok google, good luck with that.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 18 points 11 months ago

Unless you inform those customers with some kind of UI that they're being throttled because of ad-block how does Google expect them to uninstall it?

I genuinely believe they are trying to push adblock users off the platform completely

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I wish we can fast forward to the part where Youtube completely destroys itself and a new platform takes its place so we can enjoy it for 10 years before the enshittification cycle restarts again.

[–] Kevnyon@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

The problem is that only conglomerates can eat the cost of running such a platform. Ads will be the end of free interne, that's for sure.

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[–] davemeech@lemmy.ca 56 points 11 months ago (9 children)

So I have YouTube premium but also have ad-blocker, for the first time yesterday I was noticing absolutely abysmal speeds on YouTube and I suspect this is why. I thought my computer was starting to shit the bed initially it was so brutal.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I have YouTube premium

Wow, so you pay them and they still screw you? Glad that’s a product I’ll never buy then!

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering if this was coming. I don't use YouTube in-browser much if at all, so I don't see this. But I am not surprised. The fact that they're slowing down people who pay for premium is kind of an act of war. It shouldn't be a thing, and the fact that it's happening at all is a misstep on Google's part. Not that the whole slowing down people who use ad blockers isn't. But this will detrimentally affect adoption of premium subscribers which I thought was the last thing they'd want. Because they obviously don't make enough off ad revenue to support the platform. That's part of why they push premium so hard. They need more premium subscribers. This is idiocy.

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[–] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Oh no (continues to watch on freetube) anyway....

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[–] net00@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (17 children)

I dusted off an old laptop, put debian on it, put an SSD and now I have my own invidious instance, among other services...

No ads, no throttling, no bullshit. Google is very welcome to suck it. I'd gladly stop using youtube, but there's no competition.

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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

That's why Invidious exists.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don't have an ad blocker, I just have the standard strict tracking protection enabled in Firefox. What's more, I pay for YouTube Premium. But still they add a five-second delay every time I visit a web page. It's infuriating.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago

Might as well just stop paying for premium then if they're going to ding you anyway.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 months ago

there is no way the 5 second sleep before loading isnt anti competitive, because last i heard, unless they changed it, it only checks for the firefox user agent.

Actually insane that someone would willingly implement that.

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[–] 000@fuck.markets 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, YouTube, I won't be using your website anymore. But my yt-dl will be ripping max quality videos by the hundreds, just for shits and giggles.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Apparently this seems to be mainly affecting Chrome users, lol.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

YouTube speed has been shit ever since they stopped actually buffering.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And this is why we use Newpipe

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Anything better than listening 3 songs and getting 5 ads.

Stop being trash youtube. Be normal like you once were and i would actually consider a paid subscription IF i get to fully exclude shorts on my side of the platform.

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Nationalize YouTube.

Specifically, nationalize the backend, Google can keep their website. And place it in the hands of something like the UN, rather than any specific country. I hardly trust Uncle Sam any more than Google's investors. They've successfully monopolized video hosting, now turn it into a public resource.

And open it up to the world, too. Google might get to keep their website, but everyone else can access the same database, too. May the best front end win.

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[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't always click on a YouTube ad, but when I do it's a UI failure because it's an accidental click. How much do you want to bet this crackdown is a distraction from the fact their ad system doesn't perform as well as advertised?

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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