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Infamous cheat maker GameShark is back, trying to crack the AI world with it's mind reading controller built to learn your every move. (www.pcgamesn.com)

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[–] S410@lemmy.ml 37 points 10 months ago

I love region-locked websites! I love region-locked websites! I love region-locked websites!

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

oh look AI is now gonna play the game for you too

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are so many people that play idle games.

Never understood the appeal.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Number go up , dopamine go up

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

You’ve hit the nail on the head perfectly but I’d also say they’re a great time killer. I play games on my pc and switch but to me the best way I can put it is that when I don’t have those an idle game is good just because I don’t play it often and I do have to play it to progress (then hit a wall) so it’s something I don’t REALLY have to sink time in to feel like I’m moving along

I kinda went off on a rant so I’m sure some portion of my original point made it in there

[+] NoneYa@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cookie Clicker is a popular example.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cookie clicker has a sort of similar gameplay loop to Factorio for me, expand production, make more cookies, ascend for research, repeat

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

People always find what others do weird. “Who wants to grind in a game” “who wants to drive in circles all day” “who wants to farm in a game”.

You do weird things too, everyone does, stop judging others like you’re somehow better than them.

Not you specifically here, you as in talking to anyone.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The person you are replying to is not being judgemental.

No judgement was mentioned.

They just described a gameplay loop, didn't say it was good or bad or boring or easy or fun or difficult.

Even if they had, you can have a personal preference about something inconsequential and not use it to judge others.

I do not get the appeal of idle games, but I dont think that people who do are being judged in any kind of way by me for having different game preferences alone.

I do not usually prefer or enjoy playing basically turn based JRPGs in general because I usually just get really bored of the gameplay and find it repetitive and unchallenging, but the only judgement I could possibly make about such people from those who do, knowing only that they like JRPGs is that they like grand and epic stories, and they are probably more interested in a graphically engaging story and hey maybe they like the gameplay or maybe that's not even what's important to them, they really just like a semi interactive well told narrative.

Some people want a game that doesn't require the kinds of gameplay I prefer, and that doesn't mean anything other than they prefer a different kind of gameplay, or they're in the mood to experience the next saga of a narrative they love, or both!

I do not think they are bad or weird for this, just different in a way that is probably unimportant and neutral on a personal level.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I specified it wasn’t directed at the person I responded to, thanks.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Just make it a comment then, replies are for replies.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

Well that doesnt make any sense, because if it was not a reply specific to the commenter, then it must be you commenting on this topic or the comments generally.

Clearly something triggered you to post what you posted, a criticism of people who judge others based on the games they like.

Given that the post you were replying to does not do that, either you posted a reply to the wrong comment or topic, or you feel judged when that is not explicitly stated, which would basically mean you are judging yourself?

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

My favorite of these is Universal Paperclips

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 10 months ago

Cookie clicker is a famous example, I think. Passively a number goes up, and you're able to increase the rate at which it goes up by buying upgrades and whatnot.

It never really appealed to me either, though maybe some people just enjoy seeing a really high score

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

The one I personally know of most people who play is Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms.

Its the natural evolution of a kind of JRPG gameplay. The actual combat is so boring you might as well just automate grinding. So they did!

I don't even get why you have this be a game at this point. Why not just make a visual novel or like a YouTube series? Again, I just do not understand the appeal.

Here are some others:

https://diamondlobby.com/platform/steam/best-idle-games-on-steam/

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People enjoy watching others play on twitch or even live sports.

Not much difference, let people enjoy what they want.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Typically there's a personality in those videos. I see what you're saying, and given the continued existence of "time-savers" MTCs, I'd say you're right even if it's not quite the same.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

So... AI jackasses bought another dead-skin mask for an obviously doomed gizmo.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Automatically adjusting sensitivity on the fly sounds awful...

Especially in a fps where there's different sensitivities for different actions.

Like, if you're driving a vehicle for a few minutes, when you get out and start aiming is it going to be the same as last time you aimed?

Hell, some games have specific settings for each character you can select. How will the controller know which character you're playing and what you want?

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it’s more it would know you have sniper for more fine control vs an SMG where you would want loose for fast action.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I absolutely would not want a controller that knows my every move because when I'm waiting, in a unskippable cutscene, loading screen, etcetera, I'll sometimes just quickly rotate both sticks up and down.

Last thing I want is for a first or second gen AI controller to suddenly decide in a boss fight that what I really want to do it flick the sticks up and down rapidly.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

love it that we have such a powerful tool that could solve so many of our problems but people are just using it to steal art and cheat in games.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Well it solves the problem of workers being distracted with hopes and dreams. Now that ai can do all that pesky "artistic expression" there's no job available. Now you can stop worrying about "finding something better" and get on with making your shareholders more money!

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Beta level simulation ala Alastair Reynolds but… worse