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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 193 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Jupiter's Legacy in case anyone is curious what the show is.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Make a show with Legacy in the title

It has absolutely no impact

It’s like poetry it rhymes.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The real legacy is the legacy's we made about this legacy

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I literally watched it and still didn't remember it until you said that name. Still couldn't tell you a damn thing about it.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course you can, it's about superheroes, you can see it in the costumes.

Nothing besides that though. I also watched it and am drawing a blank. I think there was a scene with a boat for some reason?

So yeah, canceling it made perfect sense.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

All I remember is thinking how horrible the fake beard looked and now I'm wondering how much of the 200 million was spent on it.

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[–] Nusm@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’ve never heard of it, and my wife & I are on Netflix multiple times a week.

As a side note, other streaming services that took their stuff off of Netflix to make their own service because “hurr durr we want that money!”, have discovered that it’s hard to run and not always profitable. There are a LOT of things that have been gone off of Netflix for awhile that have suddenly started to show back up because content owners have discovered that it’s much easier to let Netflix deal with the infrastructure and just get paid. I remember when Netflix had almost everything you could want to watch in one place, and it was glorious! If you’ve cancelled over the lack of content, maybe give it another look. If you cancelled over the cost, maybe it’s more worth it now?

I’m not a Netflix shill, I just remember the days when it was awesome because of the massive selection, and I’m hopefully seeing it slowly coming back around.

[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

No thanks, they ruined the witcher and they're dead to me.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (9 children)

The massive selection existed because cable users paid for it. The big companies made content based on cable customers. Then licensed to netflix for extra profit just like they licensed to other countries' broadcasters for extra profit.

Then netflix killed the cable income, so it wasn't profitable to make these shows, netflix wouldn't pay the cost of licensing these shows for the actual cost so the licenses dropped and everyone had to make their own service's.

Rather, it's netflix that is finding out that it's difficult to make good shows, they lived on licencing other people's shows, paid for by cable, then when they killed that money source they are struggling to produce good enough content to make their service worth it.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 126 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I don't watch shows on Netflix any more until they come to a conclusion. They cancel shit so often that I can't know that whatever I choose to watch on there will wrap up and come to a satisfying end or not.

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if this is a cyclic issue.

People start waiting to watch shows due to cancellations, Netflix sees viewership is down and cancels show early, more people start waiting for new shows.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I imagine it is. We are kind of making things worse. But at the same time the issue started because they kept canceling shows. People would watch what they wanted, and some just didn't have a big enough audience, or Netflix just didn't care, so they would get canceled. And that's why now some of us don't watch what we want, because what we want is likely to get canceled, even if we do watch it. Us not watching it just increases those chances. But I'm not willing to spend time on a 1 season show that gets left without a finish.

I think another problem is that they have a little of everything. If you want a particular type of show, they probably have made it. Maybe even more than once. But that also means the viewership gets spread a little thinner, which means many of them aren't getting as many views as the big name shows.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Nah, they've always been like this. The two-season limit has been A Thing since early on.

Which is dumb as hell considering their early success with The Office. They know people want a big-ass series they can watch over and over. Doing that in-house should be a dead easy way to prevent competition (until we claw back mandatory syndication from these bastard petit monopolies) and avoid licensing their cash cow from another company.

What really pisses me off are the showrunners who do cliffhanger endings anyway. You know you're not getting a third season! You aren't doing Stranger Things numbers. Don't blame the lawnmower when you stick your hand in, you know it's gonna cut you short and feel nothing.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 78 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I watched the whole thing. I’ve certainly seen worse from bigger studios.

If Jupiter's Legacy had gotten a second season, I would’ve watched it.

[–] TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. I liked the comic it was based on. Live action stuff based on Mark Millar's work is largely hit or miss. I liked the direction they went with Super Crooks (animated and also on Netflix).

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Super Crooks was an 11/10.

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[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Damn they gave their dicks the original tomb raider treatment

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I thought that was fucking bizarre. No packer or anything. Just a fucking... box? Or are they insinuating that being a superhero means your dick is shaped like a pyramid?

Is yours not? Maybe I should see a doctor.

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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 53 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I came to the conclusion that Netflix doesn’t understand marketing. The hit shows they had seem to be lucky finds and they think they can reproduce that by dumping money into a show and telling no one about it. Like fanboys will just watch whatever Daddy Netflix gives them.

Cowboy Bebop is a perfect example. They market it to die hard anime fans and no one else. Those fans hate it and it gets cancelled. The show wasn’t that bad and people like my dad would have loved it, had he ever heard about it.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hard agree on the live action Cowboy Bebop. It was pretty good, all in all.

Honestly they nailed Jet so hard, it was fantastic. Just his whole vibe captured perfectly.

The original stuff was pretty good. It faltered hardest when it tried to recreate shots one for one from the anime.

Well, it faltered the hardest with Ed in the final scene. Not a good lasting impression.

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[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I really like cowboy bebop the live action and anime and was crushed when they canceled it. But no one out side of anime circles hear about. Everyone I have told to watch it has loved it. They need to be more selective again and market those select shows and slowly build a catalog of good shows. Instead they where worried they where going to lose people when other companies started their own streaming services and just green lit everything and then canceled 99% of them before people could even find them.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My dad actually really liked the cowboy bebop live action show, I think he said he even watched some of the anime after, which is pretty crazy as I don't think he's ever watched anime intentionally on his own before.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

which is pretty crazy as I don't think he's ever watched anime intentionally on his own before.

I mean, Cowboy Bebop is sometimes referred to as “the anime for people who say they don’t like anime” for a reason. It’s many people’s first foray into the world of anime, and it’s what helps them ditch the “eh it’s all just cartoons for kids” mentality.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The show looked pretty stupid based on the thumbnail and trailer, and I avoided it for a long time. But I actually ended up really enjoying it. I thought it was a very good show.

[–] BKXcY86CHs2k8Coz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same! It had a great message that boomers/silent gen need to get out of the way because their passive approach to villians just hadn’t worked.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I only watched it because I ran out of episodes of The Boys to watch and wanted more. So I watched both seasons of Invincible and still wanted more. I begrudgingly started Jupiter's Legacy and ended up really enjoying it, and recommending it to fans of the other two shows.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

This is what they spent the subscription increase on lol

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago (6 children)

That show sucked ass. I got through the first episode. I’m sure it worked better as a comic book. The villain was like, killing the superheroes left and right and then one of the heroes finally killed the villain (who had escaped prison or something) and then the papa hero got all pissy because “We don’t kill!” Just really stupid stuff

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Googled just to see, it's a Mark Millar comic didn't need to read any further, it was an edgy take at superheroes, how rare from him

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Absolutist characters are so 2000s

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It was actually not a terrible show either, wife and I enjoyed it

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[–] Zatore@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago

Sounds like tax fraud or something

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I find it funny how both Netflix and Amazon are just so good at burning money on mediocre shite nowadays. Amazon's studio output has always been throwing obscene money at any pitch or stupid idea, but once upon a time when Netflix promoted their own shows, you just knew they were going to be worth watching.

It'd be fine, if both companies hadn't ruined their products and laid off hundreds, if not thousands of people.

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[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I watched it. It was a good looking show. And the origin story (which took over half the season I think) was well done. But where it really fell down is that none of the characters are likeable. At the end of the season I was kind of relieved it was over because I didn't care whether any of them lived or died.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

I didn't think it was that good anyway, but it boggles belief that they spent that much on one season of anything. 200 million is a ludicrous amount of money, and they just flushed it and went "oops lol, anyway, here's wonderwall".

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I hope they didn't use that image in any of the marketing. It just looks like geriatric super heroes. Why would I want to watch that?

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet people still pay for the shit. Because… social peer pressure? Addiction?

All I read is how people can’t afford shit, streaming is expensive, the content sucks, I can’t steal passwords anymore; yet people keep paying for this shit and their subscribership keeps increasing.

People need to vote with their wallets.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Production of any show is a "write off". You can write off any business related costs. Cancelling a show doesn't change that.

Cancelling does stop the current spending on that show, and promote other shows above it. That's the only savings they get. Spending $200 million and cancelling a show after a month is a boneheaded chain of decisions.

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