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So, I'm looking for a career change since I'm probably going to move to a city of approx 200K people. What's something that everyone needs either it's simple or more complex?

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[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

Mechanic, mortician, nurse, doctor.

Especially in remote areas: doctor.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Electrical involves less working in messy situations but you'll also be cold more often.

I do think electrician offers more ways to specialize (network cabling, alarm tech, etc). Plumbing may also but I'm not as familiar.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

HVAC tech as well. Good ones make a good deal more than people think and it’s really not that hard if you like working with your hands. The troubleshooting concepts aren’t that difficult.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're willing to deal with the later costs on your body, learn a trade.

Plumber, electrician, HVAC. Everyone needs something serviced, it's just getting your name out/getting with a good company. Bonus, these things can follow you anywhere. Big city to small townships.

Welding is another solid one. Good welders can be in high demand.

Again, be forewarned, take care of yourself now, and be ready for it to catch up with you down the line. It's rough on your body.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

My brother is ten years older than me and works electrical. I worked as a cook then got into programming. I'm in my 50s.

We both have a chronic illness that causes spinal fusion. I look like a hunchback and his posture is normal.

So trades can wear you down, I got out of cooking for my health, but all the movement and exercise can be good for you if you don't wreck your back and knees, I guess.

[–] epyon22@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Only thing with welding over plumber, HVAC and electrician is they are likely going to be needed at a specific location ie industrial plant, construction or automotive stuff they may or may not be in that town and he has to travel to get there.

[–] Wburbage@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would say plumbing, electrical or general contractor. At least around me theres a lot of people looking for people to help with things like painting the inside of a house, caulking/grouting, general landscaping.

[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

IBEW will pay you to go to electrician school. They pay you.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, any of the trades would be a good idea. Just find one you like. HVAC, brick or tile setter, carpenter, etc.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Utility locators.

Everytime someone digs a hole, whether to install a fence post or dig a basement, existing utilities have to be located so they don't get hit. Its needed literally everywhere rural or city, and very understaffed.

But its long hours and outdoors. Less taxing than other trades though, and women can do it as it doesn't require much physical strength.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Sanitation engineer

[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.run 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You said you needed something more immediate, I'd say there's nothing wrong with being a waiter / waitress / bartender while learning something else. They're not the most secure jobs for sure, but they're not exactly going extinct.

Alternatively, hotel staff make a lot (at least a lot for the small town I grew up in).

If you're looking for a trade skill - HVAC, plumbing and being a mechanic will all be skills that will stick with you through life and they all pay pretty well.

Truck driving is really, really in-demand right now. If you're willing to drive 12-14 hours some days, shower at travel stops and sleep in your cab (at least, that's what I'm hearing a lot) then that could be for you.

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You can get your EPA 608 for free in a few hours and get an HVAC job.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Garbage men. You can shut down a city pretty well by not collecting any garbage. But I hope you're not in the USA. The way I hear it it's mostly really hard dangerous manual labour in that backwards country.

[–] BDC@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago

I worked summers in high school with my town street maintenance department, shoveling asphalt in the Virginia heat and other assorted fun tasks.

One day the trash department was short a body and my boss volunteered me to help them for the day. It was the single hardest work day of my life, and we were done with our route by noon. I have no end of respect for the people that do that job.

[–] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In what country is it not?

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's a fuckin cushy number in most of Europe

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I'm probably being ignorant because I don't know whether there's more to it, but Australian garbos drive a truck and control a big robot claw. They don't need to actually touch the bins.

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Doctors. Always needed even in remote isolated towns.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True! But i can't spend 8 years studying I'm afraid. Need something more let's say immediate.

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Download the SkillCat app and get your EPA 608, then look at other skills.

You can easily get a job in HVAC pretty quickly

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

Physician and nursing shortages in the U.S. are going to become a larger problem over time. Nursing can already be a lucrative job, and is less demanding than being a physician.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

In a city with no prominent industry, people will always needs healthcare, childcare, food, and maintenance on their belongings.

Healthcare: doctor, nurse practitioner, nurse, dentist, dental hygienist. Skin and hair care might be stretching the category, but everyone needs haircuts.

Childcare: teacher, ECE, nanny. Big spectrum here from no training required to professionally registered.

Food: production, supply, distribution, and sales. So farmer (but that's capital intensive), food maker (baker, chef, cook, butcher) or distributor or seller.

Maintenance: vehicles (tires, oil changes, body shop, parts, detailing), homes (carpenter, painter, gas tech, electrician, window installer, roofer, landscaper), appliances (appliance technician), power equipment (mechanic, blade sharpening).

Probably more, but that should be a pretty decent list to start with, and all should be pretty portable no matter where you go, save for certain licenses that may be specific to a state or province.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you want a valuable job that no sane customer wants to abuse, dentistry is an option.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

So either long medicine study, or you are assistant of a doctor that does want to make you as much as possible

[–] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Plumber and electricians are usually employable and paid well, so long the city has that setup. It really depends on the type of place you live though. Higher income city? Landscaper/groundskeeper or house cleaner are good options, people are willing to pay to not need to do normal house chores. Many farms nearby? Livestock vet or slaughter/butcher. Lots of tech? Software/electrical/mechanical engineer, city depending. Someone mentioned teacher but I'd say look at salary first. Location depending, many are not paid well and the job can require up to 70 hours/week, which can be less than minimum wage of the same location. They also mentioned nursing, which is pretty good, but may require long hours depending on where you work.

[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Basic human needs,

Food, water, shelter. Go into any of these and you should be good.

Long term needs would add healthcare, education.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Just one word: plastics.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Salespeople. I'm going to get downvoted for this, but there's always good sales jobs for the right person.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do you know any CAD? Civil is desperate for CAD drafters and designers. Doubled my pay. I design Substations now.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I've done some in the past yes. Interesting.. Will explore thank you.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How much do you make? What were you doing before?

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I make $62k, or $30/hr. Previously I was a veterinary hospital receptionist for years and years.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

How about being a mason, I need one for brick work and they are hard to find. Home inspections is a good one too.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

Does the city of $200K have advertisements for city jobs? Rather than trying to be universally employable, maybe cater to where you actually are/will be?

[–] SlowLoudEasy@r.nf 2 points 10 months ago

Home Inspector. Every home sale needs one, they cost 400-600 hundred. You are not liable for anything missed or that can go wrong in the future. Just need your ladder and flashlight

[–] Snejp@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if he's making good money or anything but in my town of around 100k there is one guy who is a bit of a jack of all trades (and to me it seems he could be a master as well, but I wouldn't know). He does stuff like copying keys, leatherwork, sharpening knives and so on. This is the guy you go to if you need some more obscure thing done. Might be something for you if you like that sort of stuff.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I know few people who earn a decent living as a "handyman". Jobs too small for contractors or not sure who to call, you call them. You can get a lot done with a truck or trailer, some basic tools and outdoor yard equipment.

Edit: word of mouth recommendations are now you grow the business. Always give out two business cards and ask them to pass one on. One guy sends out a carefully written, well designed email quarterly with things you might want to do around your home and his reasonable rates.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Interesting!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you really need 200,000 customers? Why not target something that enough people need to support you?

Like if you can find something 100 people in that city need, you’re fine.

[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

It's like the 80-20 rule i get it. I thought about this and I tend to believe that such professions are either niche or take much time to learn and apply eg Doctor.

Generally, any trade will always have good job security and decent pay. Trucking, maintenance (welder, electrician, plumber, or mechanic (diesel or heavy equipment, auto is usually over staffed) and HVAC) and accounting seem to have been the most reliable trades to find work over the last 20 years or so. Construction is very boom and bust. Medicine and maintenance are VERY short staffed currently, especially in rural areas.

In 2008 I chose trucking. Initial training was 6 weeks and cost me $10,000 USD back in 2008 followed by 3 months over the road with a trainer. Hate the job, but the pay is decent-ish (I've generally made between $55K and $75K), it doesn't usually matter where you live and the few times I've found myself needing a new job I've been hired within 72 hours of applying for the position.

If you do go trucking, avoid any company with a Teamsters Union presence like the plague. Every Teamster I've met to date has been an complete and total self-important asshat and they seem to have a tendency to call strike just for the hell of it (Though they are payed well).

Any other union is probably fine.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] spiffy_spaceman@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You could look into being a driver for Cisco: they supply a huge number of restaurants. Might give you connections that you could parlay into working for a different food distributor as either a driver or salesman. I also knew a guy who power washed businesses, like the exteriors. Just showed up and washed the outside walls. I had no idea this was a thing. I think he had to do it overnight though, so might be potentially dangerous in certain areas.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Look into the trades.

Rock solid employability, especially if you're competent in self-employment.

You get to experience, 1st-hand, middle-class & upper-middle-class prejudice/contempt/denigration-programming, too

( which is useful karmically: many of us are unconsciously-wired to buy-into class-system-based-"validity"/status,

and facing into karma, or, as Yehoshua "Jesus" benJoseph said the same thing, "taking up one's cross", as a means of destroying the unconscious-ignorances that undermine our Eternities/Souls/CellsOfGod in THEIR evolution is strategically wise, see?

I don't want my Soul/ChildOfGod EVER getting caught in some life due to its unconsciousness, ever again!

Rip the unconsciousness-rule "strategy" right out from the ground, you know?

I needed 7y of outright-homelessness to finally crack my unconscious-mind's sticking-to-class-prejudice,

and I still haven't ripped out all of the remnants,

but the core of it cracked a decade ago, and my life is free-er as a result, the Eternity I'm just a little participant in, is no longer "stuck on a rock, in the rapids" of Eternity/karma...

Facing into karma, as a means of freeing one's Soul can be immensely empowering.

Also, smart tradespeople outcompete many, being able to make/earn their economic-autonomy much quicker than the "professional" rat-race/treadmill people do.

( partly that has to do with a good trade ticket taking only 1-2y, whereas a 4y university-degree is .. worthless, economically, worse, it is tons-of-debt. )

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

ChatGPT, write a comment about how trades make for good stable jobs but then veer HARD into woo-woo bullshit about souls and stuff.

I want people to think twice about upvoting the initial good advice.