Everyone is mad about this but I still don't understand how RDR2 was even nominated for Labor of Love, let alone won.
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It's a popularity vote, players nominated and voted for the games. So they just trolled the votes for this and Starfield
For the nominations users at least had the option to skip sections if they couldn't think of anything to nominate. For the voting, in order to get the participation reward players had to vote for something in each category.
This led to a lot of users who don't care about the actual voting and just wanting the participation to vote for the one game they recognized in the category.
Popularity based on trolling. Every year Labor of Love goes to Terraria or CSGO or something earnest like that.
Guessing short sighted algorithms. Because you can see on Valves side of things, packages have been updated/added/etc this year which probably allows it to be picked up.
https://steamdb.info/app/1174180/depots/
You can see here, the DLC was updated in 2023 https://steamdb.info/app/1190051/info/
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Technically the game does have innovative gameplay, no AAA studio has the balls to release a game as boring and lacking in gameplay that Bethesda has, they spent over a decade making fast travel the most integral gameplay mechanic.
Fast travel, plus inconsistency in whether or not you even get an "immersive" cutscene. Half the time you click into the menu and BOOM you're standing outside at some new location. About as much fun as fast traveling to another part of an Excel sheet.
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The awards don't mean shit, there was nothing even close to innovative about Starfield. They took No Man's Sky, made it worse, and shoved their 15 year old npc behavior in it.
Fan votes have been and will always be popularity contests.
I am in a mad bubble then because I have never heard anything good about Starfield, or even seen for that matter. Besides maybe Joel Haver's starfield videos on youtube and those are parodies.
It almost seems tongue in cheek, especially with rddr2 winning the labor of love.
That or these big companies have an army of steam accounts for this. Thats not completely out of the question.
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It's worse than that because Steam essentially pay you to vote (by giving you a card or something you can sell) so people are incentivised to just pick a random game or the only game they've heard of.
Wait, do they know what the word innovative means?
Wait, do they know what the word gameplay means?
Wait, do they know what the word most means?
It was community chosen. So a lot of people trolled. There's a random dating sim in the"Outstanding story" finalists
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2322560/Love_Is_All_Around
Ah, thanks for clarifying, or explaining how it actually happened. 👍
This was a popular game amongst streamers this year.
2006: Make oblivion
2007-2022: Recycle gameplay for other IPs
2023: Make oblivion in space
Truly innovative
I have no side to take, but it's sorta hilarious seeing people saying the award mean nothing when it's starfield that win it, and on the other hand congratulate Baldur's Gate for winning another GOTY. Truly the Schrodinger Award.
Games you liked winning awards is something to celebrate. Games you don't like winning awards is proof that awards are a joke and should be ignored. Just how things work.
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To be fair, "game of the year" feels like it's meant to measure popularity, while "most innovative" sounds like it shouls measure how innovative a game is, which is perhaps why the two awards get such different reactions.
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Steam awards are a joke
ALL awards are a joke
It's like the points are made up and don't mean anything
"Everything is made up and the points don't matter."
seeing as we are the ones voting I don't think it reflects steam as a platform - just gamers
That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be. They should let people vote as they did, then curate the top 20 of each category into 10 fitting games so those that don‘t match the award category are out, and then let people put their final vote between those 10.
That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be.
Valve incentivized its users to vote in all categories.
Not only incentivized it, but put certain games at the front of all of the categories. I don't know if those games were already voted on by other players, or paid for ads by the companies themselves, but I know that I was presented with games that I didn't feel fit into the category they were in. Personally, though, I really don't give a shit about awards. I can't think of any, aside from some book awards, that aren't bought and paid for popularity contest.
Games were nominated a few weeks ago by Steam users.
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Steam has nothing to do with this, people voted like that.
Winning this award has done so much more damage to Bethesda than I'm sure they could ever have expected.
It's for the lock pick mini game.
Which was he first thing I modded out of the game because I hated it.
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Digipicking and a builder for a ship you can't meaningfully use were the only refreshing and engaging mechanics in that game.
Is this some 4chan prank?
No, this is real.
Good god all mighty.
Even if it weren't for all of the problems the game has it's hardly innovative. I don't think a Bethesda game has been innovative ever. They didn't even invent the fallout franchise.
Fallout 3: Find your dad!
Fallout New Vegas: Your quest for revenge will lead you right into the middle of a political struggle which will decide whether this post-apocalypse society will fall to fascism, a corrupt republic that's two bad elections away from fascism, a technofascist, your rule, etc.
Fallout 4: Find your son!
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i couldn't even get through the tutorial, space skinned skyrim is a about as innovating as a subscription model for a new app.
It was indeed quite innovative. Was the first game I ever installed on my HDD that refused to run at any acceptable level, ~~without any warning anywhere that it needed to be on SSD or not at all~~.
That was Alan Wake 2 for me, except they innovated one step further. I had to reinstall it on my NVME drive because my SATA SSD apparently wasn't fast enough.
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I can't believe shadow of doubt didn't win it. I guess it just isn't popular enough.
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The way that they were able to use their toolset to make space, actually super cool. Especially when you start to poke at it a little and see how the clock actually ticks. BUT, it doesn’t really serve fun. Like I bet there is a morrowind technical dev somewhere who shit their pants when they saw it but for the rest of us, it ends up feeling bland.
So there was some interesting innovation, but it did not serve gameplay. Strange award to give that game. The strongest thing they do is level design and all the bespoke levels are really good. That is a compliment I can give starfield without any reservation.
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