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while it seems everyone else says 'happy christmas'

which imo is a way better phrase, it's very ... pragmatic. happiness is more attainable than merriment. how often is anyone merry?

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[–] ndru@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Merry Christmas is a popular expression in the UK too.

I think that merriment is actually much easier to attain than happiness. One could be miserable in life, but have a few drinks and be merry.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago

Is it wrong for me to say that the pessimism with a side of alcohol is the most British you could possibly describe being merry?

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally, merry Christmas just sounds better than happy Christmas. Something about the repeated "m" sound, I think.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

That's called euphonics, and I agree

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who is "everyone else" in this story?

The only place I know that days Happy Christmas is the UK

In Australia, it's merry

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm from the UK, and I've always said merry.

I doubt it's any more prevalent in a specific country and more likely specific to individual families and friends.

For example, i always thought it was an american thing to say happy christmas.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Definitely not an American thing. It's ALL Merry over here.

[–] jak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

My family always said happy, but we also say Gesundheit, so who knows

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Either way, happy and merry Christmas to you :)

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Happy Merry to you too!

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

In the US, it's incredibly rare if not impossible to find someone who says "Happy Christmas." It's either "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays."

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Insofar as there's a distinction between the two, I feel like you've got it switched. Merriment would be a night out with drinks and friends, whereas deep happiness would be more like contentedness with your life choices. But they're about the same. Plus "A Christmas Carol" uses Merry, and it's like the ultimate Christmas story.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

In my country we say "Have a good Yule".

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

God jul och glad fortsättning!

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Around here we wish you a homosexual Christmas

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago

AKA: make the yule time gay.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Merry Christmas" is pretty much the only context I see my fellow Americans use the word "Merry" other than deliberately trying to sound upper class British.

[–] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tradition, mostly.

Dickens used Merry Christmas in his Christmas Carol and the US used the greeting since the 19th century.

In the UK however, happy christmas is more common as the royals used that phrase.

There’s apparently no big thing behind it. Just the way language evolved with different influences in different regions.

[–] Breakyfix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

am from uk. merry christmas is very much the common phrase here by a long shot

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Agreed - it's merry christmas and happy new year.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Canada says Merry Christmas even though we usually do British spelling and measurements.

Also, the north pole is either in Canada or Russia (not going to look it up) so we are probably correct.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

The area around the north pole is just ice without any land underneath. It's also not part of any nation.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

We like to brag about our ability to still pronounce the R sound.

Similar to why Brits say Happy Christmas, honestly.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

I think Merry Christmas is a harken to antiquated dialect, much like other religious phrases. Thou shalt not kill or Thy will be done or extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Happy Chrimbo

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Automatic response. Nobody that I am close with is actually happy (or even fine), but when staff asks you in greeting if you're having a good day and did you find everything okay, you know they are bullshitting the "I'm doing well, and yes, thanks". Same sort of automatic bullshit response.

We are living paycheck to paycheck (some not even that), with slowly rising levels of debt, in dead-end jobs while the earth slowly boils us and rich fucks get richer. In tight-knit circles, suicide is often discussed openly and often, and death is welcomed. My best friend recently told me that (if they die before me, as if lol) when I attend the funeral, if anyone suggests that they had a happy life, I am to punch that person in the face, without hesitation.

Life is pain. But it's so much quicker to fake that your existence isn't hell, so lying to people in ways that doesn't matter is way easier.

Happy holidays.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

UK here... Merry Christmas, yes. Happy Christmas, yes. Happy Holidays, no, no, no and just for effect no.

[–] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What if you don't intend to see someone before New Year's and want to wish them a happy New Year as well, while being lazy?

I really don't get this hatred for "Happy Holidays", because even if you want to discredit the non Christian holidays in December/January, there are still two...

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Is everybody Christian to you?

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

Common in the UK too. I think it's because we often add "... and a happy New Year". Two happies doesn't scan and merry New Year doesn't work as well.

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

...who cares 🤷‍♂️