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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago (2 children)

99% is pretty impressive, most species have 100% mortality rate

[–] Cralder@feddit.nu 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Caterpillar" is not a species. It's a stage of some animals' life cycle. It means 99% of catepillars die before they become butterflies or moths or whatever

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So caterpillars do have a chance to be "immortal" and transcend instead to a superior state of existence* at the end of their time. Whoa.

*that is, unfortunately, very mortal.

[–] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I wish it were 100% in tomato hornworms. Seeing that 99% of them die before turning into moths makes me think all of the surviving ones just hang out in my garden.

I think noting caterpillar is the same as say infant death rate for humans

[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The problem is they they’re just designed to eat and get chonky. If they had invested in cool ninja combat during evolution, scientists believe they would be not only more likely to survive, but be a lot cooler.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some caterpillars are cool and spiky or poisonous or venomous maybe?

[–] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Due to Newtons 46th law of awesomeness, Ninjas are still cooler than spikes, but still are pretty dang cool.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

sometimes i wonder if life is sort of designed to be like that though. not in a strictly intentional intelligent way but also not in a fully accidental coincidental way.

somebody has to turn plant into food right? without them and homies like them our food system don't work.

[–] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago

It's designed that way in the same way as a hole was designed for a puddle*. The caterpillars are evolutionarily successful because of a "spray and pray" strategy, and other species are successful because of the easy food.

Biology is an arms race, in a sense: so everything is interlinked, and affected by everything else, even if only by distant, myriad links in an unbroken web of chains. It's the reason a lot of biologists like myself are anxious about the ecological destruction that's been unfolding for so long. Life finds a way in the long term, but short term...it sucks to be alive when many of the things you depend on aren't.

*This metaphor thanks to Douglas Adams

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought hotdogs were nature’s hotdogs.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Little known fact, but nature abhors a vacuum and hot dogs.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago
[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Has anyone run them through HotDogNotHotDog app analysis? Maybe they're not just nature's hotdogs, and we're missing out.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Alien species discovers earth ..... "Holy shit Kang! These little bipeds are delicious! And all you have to do is support whatever community or belief they follow and they'll go anywhere you tell them"