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[–] DonPiano@lemmy.ca 179 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Motherfuckers moving digits around hoping nobody will notice.

440 -> 400? Nah, too obvious.

440 -> 404? Greasy, let's do that!

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 47 points 10 months ago

That's one of the skudgiest size reductions I have ever seen. It's also not organic. I would pick something else if anyone did that to me.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago

Beer not found

[–] v81@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lol, the same comment, 4 seconds apart. You’re 4 seconds the senior so you win, I guess.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

That 440 down to 404 was deliberate as well. Meant to trick the eye at a glance.

I know this is a nearly impossible task, but is anyone regularly tracking and documenting the shrinkflation in products?

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That probably means that a ton of things are switching to 404ml cans, because I don't think those are usually custom made for a single beverage.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is such a ridiculous number, though. As if someone specifically looked for a number where you might miss that it's different from 440 ml.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's exactly what they did.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

404: beer not found.

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[–] Enk1@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where is this at? I've never seen 440ml or 440ml cans in North America. Canned drinks/beers usually come in 355ml (12 US ounces), 473ml (16oz), 500ml (16.9 oz), or 19.2 US ounces (20 British ounces aka British pint). Other less common sizes are 8oz (236ml / Red Bull) and big beer formats like 24oz and 32oz (just shy of a litre).

404ml is around 13.66 US ounces or 14.2 imperial ounces. 440ml is around 14.7 US ounces or 15.5 imperial ounces.

Usually when you get a measurement that's not a nice round number like 500 or 750 it means it was probably converted from some other measurement standard. But both measurements seem completely arbitrary for what I assume is an English speaking country.

I looked through some antique measurements but didn't find anything useful. It seems to be more than half a chungah, but far less than a butt.

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And it's no longer organic!

[–] sapetoku@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mill St brewery was bought by Molson (or other industrial piss maker) a few years back. Total boycott on my part.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wrote off wicked weed in 2017. I overheard someone say they'd bought themselves back! I can't find any information on that, but I did find this. I thought I'd share.

https://www.newsobserver.com/living/food-drink/article275669121.html

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[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

That's the really cheaper part

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those 36 missing millilitres contained all of the organic part unfortunately.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Guinness pint is now 14.9 fucking ounces in the US. Relatives of mine in Ireland confirmed that if they did that shit there, they'd have another rebellion.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (8 children)

If I'm not mistaken, the guinness can is the same size as other US pint (16 oz) cans, but there is less beer volume because of the widget.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The widget is so nice and crunchy though.

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[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What is 440ml to begin with? A propper beer in a can is 500ml, a propper beer in a bottle is 330ml or 500ml. Everything else is a scam.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of imported beers come in 440 ml cans. US ones in particular. But I agree that it feels scammy, because we expect them to be 500 ml.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't you expect them to be like 470 ml ~16 oz? 500 us closer to 17, and 440 is a strange ~15 odd ml

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

US measures in ounces, we have three standard beer sizes: 12oz, 24oz and the infamous 40oz. Bars will sell 16oz draught beer, no one is really sure where that came from and not all bars sell them.

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[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Lolol that 440 was from the previous round of shrinkflation

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's interesting because most canned and bottled beers in the US are 12 ounces / 354 ml ...

[–] mydude@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

In Norway, we have a law that says grocery stores have to give two prices, one for the product, and one for the product in a compareable size, like 1litre or 1kg for easy comparison. This safeguards againt shrinkflation.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In America grocery stores pretend to do this but switch the units on nearby items to confuse consumers. (e.g. name brand will have price/oz, store brand will be price/g)

Probably happens elsewhere too, I like to think it's malicious but maybe there's a reason.

[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It's malice.

[–] Danksy@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Shrinkflation still happens, you just get to watch two numbers go up now.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some stores in the USA will list price per oz on the whenever applicable, which is nice, but sadly just a store policy not any regulation.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It also depends on state legislature I believe. There was a customer that came up to me to tell me our signage was incorrectly detailing the price pr. oz or the product oz. (can't remember which now) and I never quite understood why he cared so much. But apparently businesses can get fined or dinged per incorrect signage they have so?

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This seems to be everywhere in Canada. Though annoyingly some products won’t share the same unit. Toilet paper tends to either be shown per roll or per foot and makes it difficult to compare.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Aaand Mill Street is now boycotted.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's just part of the vast near-monopoly of the beer market that is AB InBev. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_Street_Brewery

If you want to boycott them, only buy beer from a small time brewery you know isn't owned by them.

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Their brewery was a fun tour, the brew master was fantastic. Pretty good burger too.

Now it's bought up by a large conglomerate so while the organic is still nice, there are much better local options available.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

440 to 404oz. Penny pinching is a weird part of capitalism.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

404oz? Is this a can for giants?

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[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Damn and I thought they had the same amount and I was ready to call shenanigans. I’m still ready to call shenanigans but not for that reason. That’s so deceptive.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago

"That's not what I meant whan I said to hold my beer."

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago

I'm still furious about my tea box. Purchased 1 month apart and it went from 25 bags/box to 20 bags/box with the price increases about 16-18% (based on my head math, can't bother to calculate the exact amount)

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It used to be organic but they took the carbon out?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nitrogen Charged

It's got Electrolytes!

[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For a 440ml can of beer, the beer in can + can itself = 1 Imperial Pound [453 grams].

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