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[–] Synctrex@feddit.de 272 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"working as a server" - I have to get rid of thinking everything is about computers...

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I have a friend who asks people whether they're running Windows or Linux when we go out to eat and they come to our table to introduce themselves as our server. None of them has yet to get the (bad) joke and I die inside a little more every time I hear it.

[–] Synctrex@feddit.de 67 points 1 year ago

That's hilarious but I would also cringe every time.

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[–] preciouspupp@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Responding to HTTP request all day is hard work.

[–] ArtisinalBS@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the last time, make the coffee yourself, I AM A TEAPOT!

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 116 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Look up 'Hell's Angels' by Hunter Thompson. He has a chapter on the economics of being a biker/hippie/artist in the early 1970s.

A biker could work six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough to spend two years on the road. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfriend.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's part of the point. The system doesn't want the majority to be able to say no to a job because they were able to save easily and can take time off whenever they feel. On top of the things mentioned here like food and insurance costs there are also other things now like being certified in a field or needing to continue education or paying for permits every year that seem way to calculated in cost which is just another way of keeping you from getting to far ahead.

My family does ok, but we were still cutting it close a few years ago. Today we are looking at new jobs that we hopefully can get and pay more because ours stopped giving raises and inflation has us stuck living paycheck to paycheck.

I wish I could take more than a few weeks off a year to do what I actually enjoy doing for once. 1 of those weeks is a cheap vacation and the other is just spent getting things done because work takes up most of our time. It's stressful and tiring and the longer it goes on the more depressing it becomes.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Another thing to consider. Working folks used to be able to afford really nice things. In 1960, a Rolls Royce was about $20,000 and a Jaguar was about $6,000. A ringside ticket to the first Ali/Fraiser fight was $200. They want peasants scrambling for crumbs, not peers

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would imagine most homeowners couldn't afford a loan for their current house at its current value. I just ran a borrowing capacity calculator for a local large bank, and it's well below what my house is worth.

I bought at 21 and had it paid off at 38. I earn triple what I did back then.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's part of the reason I bit the bullet when I did and bought a house where I didn't want to. I started building equity and when housing prices went up I was able to roll that over into a house I wanted in the area I wanted. At some point you have to get in and start building the equity even if it's somewhere you aren't as happy in. YMMV.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but I honestly feel terrible for younger people just starting out. I'm locked into a 2.35% APR loan on a house that's valued nearly 3 times what I bought it for less than 10 years ago. I would never be able to afford mortgage payments going in at today's rates for the full value of the house, let alone come up with 20% to get rid of mortgage insurance.

The starter townhouse my wife and I bought almost 20 years ago has gone up similarly. What kind of person in their early 20s can afford to come up with a 6 figure down payment? Or afford a mortgage payment that's several thousand dollars a month? Shit's crazy.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The apartment I've lived in for 20+ years recently got sold to a property investment firm. They gave us all 60 days notice. They are going to spruce up the apartments and then rent them. They were nice enough to offer current tenants first dibs on the new apartments. At 3x the current rent. A group of people, families, retired folk, a lady going through cancer treatment, we're all at a bit of a loss. Can't afford to live here, can't afford to move. I really don't know what where we'll end up.

[–] ProffessionalAmateur@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Burn it down. Honestly. Not trying to he a prick but fuck these greedy cunts. 3x. Only answer is war on our front

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago

It's not an answer. The problem is bigger than one company deciding to try for higher rent. This is happening because of housing supply and society-wide wealth distribution.

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Yes please do- then the insurance money will build them brand new apartments and they'll probably make a but on top of it if they use the right contractors. Then they could rent for even more as they are now new builds. Great plan. Much thought.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, people who own lots of shit had to be properly compensated for owning lots of shit, otherwise - or so we are told - "they wouldn't invest".

It's funny how we're told to "work hard" and there's even lots of criticism of the "workshy poor" all the while the entire economic system has been changed to maximize the returns of rent-seeking (which is the single most parasitical economic activity there is) at the cost of the returns from working AND the purchasing power of said returns (because life essentials like housing are way much more expensive).

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A rising tied raises all boats - Ronnie Regan (but if you don't own a boat, you drown)

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

He meant to say "yachts" not "boats".

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[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (17 children)

People think I am full of it when I say that my household income (largish household with kids) is a quarter million a year and we are basically living like we are middle class. Money just doesn’t go as far as it used to.

As a millennial, I never would have imagined working my way up to this point only to find I can’t even buy a house. Oh sure, I could make the bare minimum down payment and get stuck with a super high mortgage payment, but if I lose my job or become disabled or unable to work, we would have no way to pay for it.

Groceries, housing, and insurance costs have more than doubled for us since 2019.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Same. My wife and I are in the process of trying to buy a house over an hour from town, because it's the only way we'll ever be able to afford one, and it's still more than what our landlord paid for the house we're renting. Housing prices have tripled in the last 8 years here. They doubled in the last two years alone. The house we're renting would cost a million dollars to buy today and our landlord has a $1000 per month mortgage on it since she bought it right before the housing explosion. It's pretty wacky that you can become a millionaire just by having been alive and financially stable a few years earlier, while everyone else is destined to be poor for the rest of their lives, even if they're making a quarter million dollars per year.

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[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This meme is so old, those prices have increased even more by now

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

posted 9 hours ago

Yep, that actually checks out.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (22 children)

The issue here is buying power is dramatically dropping which is a function of both wages and prices. Raising the minimum wage alone won't fix that; instead, price controls will have to be implemented such that all housing is bought back down to prices that are satisfactory to consumers. That can't happen without federal legislation.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Price controls cause shortages. The solution is plain old taxes - take money away from the rich. Housing will be cheaper to buy up front when recurring taxes are higher. Your dollar will go farther when other dollars are removed from circulation.

[–] Hikiru@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A 4% tax on millionaires in Massachussets got free lunch for school kids in the state

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[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Prices are a matter of supply and demand.

Housing starts plunged during the Great Recession, and recovered to only mediocre levels. However, over that time the population continued to grow.

We fundamentally have a housing shortage, particularly in places people want to live. One massive problem is that it's currently quite difficult to build net-new housing in places people want to live, due to a combination of overly-restrictive zoning and NIMBYs who ate empowered to block new projects.

The problem is particularly bad in popular urban areas. Either you build outwards or you build upwards. But if someone wants to live "in Boston", "in NYC", etc, they probably don't want to live in a new build an hour's drive away from the city in traffic. And infill development is generally highly regulated.

Adding a price ceiling without fixing the underlying shortage is going to benefit the people currently living in an area, but it will make it harder to find a new unit. Adding units isn't the only important thing, but it's pretty important.

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[–] aircooledJenkins@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I couldn't buy my own house today. I bought in 2010.

[–] Fosburys_mom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I bought in October 2020 and couldn't afford it now. I bought with a 15-year mortgage, which I feel unbelievably fortunate to have been able to do. If I was to refinance to a 30-year loan, I'd be paying $500 per month more than I am now, and that's not accounting for the 25% increase in house value. It's insane.

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[–] mushroom@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife and I couldn't afford to live in our own neighborhood if we were looking to buy now. We bought in 2019.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

The worst part isn't a corner bedroom going up 5 times...

It's even a shitty hole in the wall is 1500 now.

[–] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Welcome to crony capitalism

[–] LemmyWinks666@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only reason I still live in Ohio. My salary is almost double the median income, and I'm still just barely staying out of the paycheck to paycheck life while paying my spouses way through school. I wouldn't have been able to afford a house anywhere else with just my income and maintain what semblance of a life we do have.

The perks of living in the decaying rust belt I guess.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

this isn't funny this is just sad

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

server

there was that post about parking meters being $27/hr so I thought this was computer servers speaking at first

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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