People aren't fucking paying attention. I don't mean the 30% or so who are MAGA die-hards. I mean literally every other person who considers voting for Trump. So many of them don't even pay attention to the news that they aren't even aware that this is a horse race where, as bad as one contender can be, the other one is a fucking Nazi.
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No, they're paying attention. They're voting for the fascists on purpose, because they will only hurt the people who they feel deserve it, and then America will be available to the right kind of people.
A vast number of Americans do not really pay much attention to elections until the last minute, if at all.
I heard they like dick taters.
Many are religious who just feel that the party represents their values more and will vote blindly without thinking of the consequences.
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The thing no one talks about is that these voters who want to hurt others feel that way because of a perceived hardship or wrong done to them. They are also told that immigrants and "others" who aren't like the voter, that's the real cause of the hardships and problems.
If those voters would ever learn that the people who hurt them are also the same ones who are telling them who to hurt there would be a fantastic reckoning. Everyone can be happy except for the psychopaths turning folks against each other.
Also, people who lean left need to get off their asses and vote. About half of eligible voters actually vote, and slightly more eligible voters lean more left than right. If half of those left leaning non-voters voted, imagine how many races would be won handily by Democrats.
To me these are the people who need to be paying attention and doing their civic duty.
I don't mean the 30% or so who are MAGA die-hards. I mean literally every other person who considers voting for Trump.
I don't think anyone is on the fence at this point. If anyone is even considering voting for Trump they agree with at least some of his agenda, which is entirely batshit insane.
If they find any of his qualities or policies even the slightest bit appealing they are part of the maga crowd. There's absolutely nothing moderate about him, there's no room for middle ground.
As much as I hate to say it, I still think there are people so clueless as to be voting for him for what they think are "good" economic policies (for their own 401K or the price of groceries/gas). They are so low-info that they think people are just upset with him for "mean tweets" or the like.
But how do those people ignore that the economy was a mess with Trump, disease rampant, open violence, etc? And the economy has been much improved under Biden and life has relatively calmed down? Is it all FOXnews and its wannabes?
Im going to vote for Biden for obvious reasons, but I really wish he and his team would stop wholesale lying about the economy right now. The college I worked at went under about 4 months ago. Over half of the colleagues I was close with have not found another job yet.
We all have degrees, and are going to have to resort to working fast food.
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every other person who considers voting for Trump
.....AND those who will vote for a third party candidate
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Good thing you guys learned from 2015 and not giving him 10x more press coverage than other candidates. No way that could go wrong. It's not like there is no such thing as bad publicity...
An older relative is here for the holidays and was watching some YouTube yesterday. Somehow, there exists a 30 minute which talked all about what a genius Trump was and how he doesn't like electric vehicles. Just this endless stream of "Donald Trump visionary policies on..." and his brilliant predictions that were all true. No details, references, or a critical thought about how Trump probably doesn't know that there's anything inside the parts of the car he can't see.
Edit - what I am trying to point out is that this goes way beyond traditional news outlets. I don't think this guy watches a lot of news. I do think he considers himself well informed. We are Canadian, BTW. He's into cars (and an incredible mechanic as well as being a generally good person I enjoy spending time with) so this is on his feed.
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That part can't completely change simply because the mechanics of it are too fundamental and too blunt. A Presidential candidate who is the front runner for one of the two parties saying they want to deploy troops is news. It's newsworthy. They can't just ignore it and if they did they would be doing the news anymore.
It's the same as all the way back in 2016 - after Trump won the election, the NYT published a lengthy, complicated story detailing his many conflicts of interest which probably took a team or reporters months to do. And on the same day it was published Trump tweeted that there had been "3 million fraudulent votes" (still waiting on the evidence of that btw).
That move drowned out the conflict of interest story by a lot, and more than that - the president elect saying shit like that is actually genuinely news. The news media can't just ignore it.
They've gotten a bit better over the years at dealing with him . Now they'll say stuff like "Trump asserted yet again, without evidence, that he won the 2020 election" instead of just regurgitating his nonsense without context. But them ignoring Trump isn't the answer.
The problem here is that many Americans want this guy as president the first place.
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It's absolutely maddening. I'm not especially sharp about politics and the media, but in 2015 I was on Twitter and FB saying, "Stop fucking saying his name. This is how he's going to get elected." People can't not talk about him. Even if the story is about what a stupid, evil loser he is, you're giving him power by talking about him all the time.
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Trump is a danger to the world. Put him in prison.
Fucking put him somewhere. Depth is optional imo.
Launch him into the fucking sun.
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Isn’t that illegal?
Has that honestly ever stopped Trump before?
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I guess this means the 2nd amendment crowd finally gets their opportunity to use their stockpiled guns against the government in a case like this? /s
Yes, exactly right. You do not need the /s at all because that is the purpose of 2A.
that doesn't work though when at least half of the 2nd amendment supporters voted for fascism. What are they going to do, take up arms against the party they voted into power themselves?
This exactly. These fascists will point their guns squarely at liberals and Democrats in the name of their country.
Remember when Trump said he could shoot a person in Times Square and get away with it?
His supporters loved him for that because they want to do this too. They want to get away with murdering people.
Make no mistake: we will have another coup if Trump is "elected". The question is will there be enough people to stand up and rise against it.
I hate to say it but I'm not optimistic on that.
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Not /s, you're exactly right, you should move to the left and be prepared as well.
There's a lot of people sounding the alarm, but it seems liberals still don't believe what conservatives have been straight up telling them for years.
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Ah yes, the nazi wants to build concentration camps to murder the brown people. This is in line with his platform.
The irony with this is that the vulnerable people crossing the border would otherwise pick up low wage manufacturing and menial labor jobs that create wealth for the nation and farmers, but it seems that republicans are banking on poor white babies to grow up and accept those jobs in 14 years and be good republican voters. I don't see the pendulum swinging so hard to the right that the strategy would ever work.
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Never forget that George Bush closed the southern border for 48 hours. That's as long as it lasted. Then big business farms and other companies who desperately rely on immigrant labor got in some people's ear.
If Trump does this it would destroy the economy.
Wouldn't be his first time absolutely destroying a valuable money making system with his stupid tiny hands. Everything he touches turns to garbage.
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I'm still finding it extremely unlikely he's electable. Not saying we shouldn't take it seriously, though.
Over the years many conservative anti-vaxxers have died from covid, boomers are dying off, and anyone who wasn't already a trumper isn't exactly lining up.
Most economic indicators are trending very well; meanwhile the abortion topic continues to backfire tremendously.
2022 proved polls don't sufficiently capture millennial and zoomers.
I'm GenX, and I wouldn't answer a poll if you paid me. I will vote, and I will never vote for a Republican for the rest of my life. If there's no Dem candidate on the ballot for a specific office, I leave it blank so they can see how many votes they're not getting when they don't run a candidate.
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He might want to check to see how the troops and their leaders feel about that.
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Democratic Peoples Republic of Trumpistan
If that demented orange rapist thinks so much as misfires a neuron in that direction, his retirement will arrive immediately. They think we’re fucking around?! MARK IT ZERO.
it is SUCH bullshit that our useless, pathetic, so-called “journalists” just watch this shit go by and pretend it’s just something that happens. They literally can not call him an anti-American coup-plotting traitor and a fascist.
Fortunately, we don’ need no steenking corporate news.
This shit will continue to happen until Americans accept that democracy comes with at least a basic level of responsibility. That being mandatory voting.
It’s like Emperor Palpatine, but credulous.
Execute that fucking traitor - legally or otherwise - then use his fat, rotting corpse as a public pissoir.
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Everything else aside for a moment, trump sure it's an incapable little bitch that is really just a mouth piece for stephan miller. trump is so weak, stupid and powerless even his hate and fascist tendencies have to be directed by another idiot. Little-handed clown boy.
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