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[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 154 points 9 months ago

Someone, light the EU signal!

Lawsuit intensifies in the distance

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 123 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck Google. Ruining the internet for profit.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago (5 children)

They dont want to just run it.

they want to control and dictate it.

Google needs a massive regulatory hammer to come down on it and smash it into dozens, if not hundreds, of tiny individual companies

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

That needs to happen more with Alphabet than Google but either would be great.

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[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 93 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can you say Anticompetition practices?

1 lawsuit, 2 lawsuit, 3 lawsuit ah ah ah

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Slam dunks, yes. But does any of the people who would bring a case against then have enough money to fight an army of more lawyers? Probably not.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 85 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)
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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 83 points 9 months ago

YouTube thinks aarch64 Firefox is... a HiSense TV?!?!?!?!

Ah yes, televisions are exactly where the user wants lower resolution

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago (15 children)

They finally made YouTube unusable for me even with ublock. Refreshing the filters didn't work and told me I could only watch 3 videos.

Google was always going to win the war but I didn't expect it to be like this.

I'm now using piped for all YouTube videos.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I randomly stopped getting the anti-adblocking. On my gaming PC I never got them, on my laptop they went away after I disabled my adblocking for one video and then re-enabled it. Now I don't get them at all. Did they give up on me?

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Using an alternative front end isn’t losing

Once they get rid of front ends and you go back they’ll have won

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

You are remembering to purge all caches before refreshing I hope?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

User Agent String: A browser's way of lying about what it is, in order to not trigger some server's arcane content filtering system.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 53 points 9 months ago (14 children)

User Agents should be optional. The whole idea of the Internet was that the server should respond the same way to the same request regardless of the client's qualities.

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[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The more bullshit like this I read about YouTube the more I despite them. I already use GrayJay on mobile and I'm using ublock Origin + ublock Matrix on Librewolf to control cookie usage on desktop. So far I've been able escape the video player block by clearing cache.

I'm just waiting for the day they "force" me onto another frontend.

[–] Jeom@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)

doesnt ublock origin already block youtube's anti adblock?

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

From what I can understand from the thread, they aren't deliberatly crippling FF.

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.de 58 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The way I read it is Chrome gets a pass on the architecture crippling, the others don't.

Someone correct me if I got the wrong idea.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

So Google is saying out loud they are trying to be Microsoft and abuse its near monopoy to push their other products.

Got it.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

It looks like also this was against adblocker so, again, not specifically Firefox. Quote from the article itself:

The issue was initially reported as targeting Firefox users, but users online have said they’re seeing the delay in Chrome and Edge, too. Reddit and Hacker News users who’ve examined the code that appears to be causing the delay have said they see no indication that YouTube checks what kind of browser is in use. Mozilla’s senior brand manager Damiano DeMonte wrote in an email to The Verge that “there’s no evidence that this is a Firefox-specific issue.

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Which turned out to also have nothing to do with FF but is targeting adblockers.

[–] lhx@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (11 children)

That’s gonna be a lawsuit…

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 9 months ago

So Mozilla is going to take Google's money and use that to sue Google?

It's going to be a bug report.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Hmm, anti competitive practices.

If only there was some kind of legislation that protected an open and fair internet...

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[–] senorblackbean@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Switched to Freetube/Invidious. Like the sun, I'm never looking directly at Youtube.com ever again.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (12 children)

I like how nobody actually bothered to read the thread and doesn't understand this is a bug and wasn't done on purpose.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Having bugs for platforms outside the walled garden is a feature of the walled garden. That's the beauty of it, they don't need to purposefully cripple Firefox and other engines if they just don't take it into account when creating features.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Quite a reductive statement based on a very small obscured window into what Google is doing with user agent profiling but go off I guess since you’re so sure

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's not. First of all, the code doesn't check for Firefox at all. Second, it blocks 4K for all Android devices. Conclusions people came up with here just show utter ignorance.

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[–] muzzle@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Joke is on them, i only ever use NewPipe (or freetube on desktop)

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Steelmanning: perhaps no ARM Linux system was capable of playing 4K reliably until Asahi Linux came along?

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 42 points 9 months ago

Someone on the Hacker News cross-post mentioned it, but it seems like they assumed any ARM Linux device that wasn't detected as running Android was some low-power device like a Raspberry Pi, and didn't anticipate more powerful devices running bog-standard Linux until Apple Silicon and thus Asahi came along.

[–] whfsdude@dmv.social 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's probably the case that this was good intent given the lack of desktop ARM computing hardware, but they really should let the client decide the video quality.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Asahi Linux?

They named a distro after a beer brand?

[–] autokludge@programming.dev 69 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Asahi means “rising sun” in Japanese, and it is also the name of an apple cultivar. 旭りんご (asahi ringo) is what we know as the McIntosh Apple, the apple variety that gave the Mac its name.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

... They named Macs after a beer brand?

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[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

That was fascinating. Thank you for sharing 💖

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Lina asahi is steamer who reverse engineering apple m1 chip for Linux, so asahi linux was distro for apple m1 at first

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[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think they want everyone to use user agent switcher so that Firefox share will drop and then nobody will support it and will die.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Easy: use a user agent switcher that uses blacklists. Mine only spoofs chrome for youtube.com.

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[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 14 points 9 months ago

Disgusting!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Stupid question, what about 2 in 1 tablets?

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