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As always, you guys are way too fixated on size.

An elite 1.5 million.

I'm happy with this. I feel like Lemmy is an oasis of nerds in a social media world of toxic people obsessed with all the wrong things.

I'm surprised that the fediverse is as popular as it is, I would've guessed <500k. That's awesome. I'm also shocked that Threads is apparently that popular, I completely forgot it existed immediately after it launched. I also didn't know that Snapchat still existed, so maybe I'm just out of touch on social media stuff.

WE'RE ON THE RADAR, BOYS!

There's no way reddit has more "real" users than Twitter // X. Maybe with bots but half the shit on reddit is a Twitter screen cap or repost.

So Facebook is:

Boring Full of bots Soulless

An we are:

Real people mostly Engaged A cute little dot!

Like someone said, 1,5M people are enough for me, specially if they are mostly active and it seems they are. Are they stats for mean user activity?

Wow, the Fediverse is actually visible :0

I wonder how long it'll take before we finally collectively reject the SV ethos that size is the only metric that matters and success is only achieved via monopoly...

There was a time when Usenet and BBBses and IRC was tiny and yet people still found value through community in those places.

Maybe, and I know this is a wild idea, platforms don't have to include every human on the planet to be meaningful, relevant, or valuable.

There are dozens of us! Dozens!!

Fuck Spez.. amirite ? Guys?

I know it's not the full truth(maybe?) but I feel like we're not attracting the worst kind.

And you know what?

One and a half million people, I can work with that. I know it's not going to stay that number but it's seriously enough for anyone, except some soul-less megacotp ofc.

Yay! I love it!

It's nuts how a difference of hundreds of millions of people doesn't actually feel like a ton more people or provide any better quality except in some niche spots

we really need to stop calling it formerly Twitter and just call it Shitter.

he ruined the platform, the people can ruin a name

Why this many people use Snapchat is incomprehensible

There are so many good messenger apps and all of them, Snapchat's giant userbase remains

There is an interesting, and almost universal phenomenon on reddit that every time a subreddit gets past about 40,000 subscribers, the discussion quality immediately drops off a cliff, unless extremely harsh moderation policies are implemented to explicitly weed out low effort content which brings its own set of problems.

My theory on why this occurs is the scaling power of moderation. I think you computer people are probably very familiar with the concept of scalability, and that size is its own challenge at the hyperscale. So for a centralized system like Twitter or Instagram or Facebook, moderation can only scale vertically, so a huge moderation team is needed to contend with the scale of these platforms alone, which also forces the need of personalized recommendation algorithms to promote this that are actually interesting to individual users.

Reddit was able to partially avoid this phenomenon with the subreddit system, which means everyone was able to effectively manage their own, smaller subgroups who shares common interest without intervention from the site admin/mods to achieve a form of pseudo-horizontal scaling. You can also see the success of that with Facebook Groups, which are one of the few reasons why people still use Facebook for social media even though they do not want to interact with the current Facebook audience.

Lemmy, and the rest of the fediverse platforms would suffer the problems even less, as now every group admin can now be completely independent from one another, which means that real horizontal scaling can be achieved and hopefully preserving the discussion quality to a degree as it grows.

'LinkedIn'

LinkedIn is as much Social Media as talking with your manager is Socializing.

It's really plastic and fake feeling there, more so than anywhere else.

I think this is great. It might be 1/1000th of these other systems, but I think the fediverse is at a tipping point where I'm not seeing the same things every day. I don't think critical mass needs to be a ranked competition.

I'm surprised Reddit is bigger than Xitter. Is that mostly because people have been leaving the Musk project in recent years?

Since you posted it in a selfhosting community, this is the feeling I get:

Can we please try to deadname Twitter harder? As a person who had an x in their name, it’s really annoying to have some dickhead copyright it

LinkedIn has over a billion users. I got a t-shirt for it.

It's cozy here :)

Why bluesky and threads should embrace ActivityPub.

Social media is splintering - accelerated by the fall of Twitter. It's not 2010 and a social media network is never going to be what twitter was in 2010. They'll might as well develop social media that can talk to other networks

Hmm… could this be why I like it better?

Edit: Also, what is active users? I’m “active” on Facebook about once a month, yet on lemmy at least an hour a day. One is more active than the other depending on the threshold.

Is this right?

Twitter and LinkedIn don’t match the Wiki data and should be inverted, and is the Wiki link correct pointing to 2021?

Who doesn't like an underdog? 😤

Haha, now show us a map of the size of different stars compared to Sol (ours, in the local solar system).

Sometimes the small stars and communites are the most important. ;)

For the biggest ones: How many of those active users are bots, advertisers, and scammers? I'd guess about half on Facebook.

Also, is it considered "active" if you have a dormant account but have the app installed on your phone and it still watches what you're doing? What if you only use it to communicate with family because it's the only internet they understand?

Further, what about duplicate accounts or "secretive" secondary accounts so you can click on the depraved stuff you like without that showing in your public feed?

I feel like the real numbers for the big ones are massively inflated by issues like these.

The Fediverse is small enough to as of yet not be affected. Once it gets large enough, it will have all of this, too.