They made a deal with the devil, and now they panic because they need to pay up.
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The GOP gladly let their party turn into a cult and very few cults manage to live on after its leader is dead/no longer viable.
It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least.
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A true rival conservative party, one not devoted to religion, could break through if one existed. I do think the shift is actually left and progressives will form the next second party and the Democratic Party will be the moderate / right party in the future.
Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party.
I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party.
As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF.
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they've been ready for him; that's why most republicans very publicly kiss his ass; all in the hopes that they don't draw ire when he is inevitably made ineligible to run.
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It is his party now.
“If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed ... and we will deserve it.” - Lindsey Graham
I've successfully repressed many of my Trump-era political memories.
Can anyone tell me how Republicans went from "we'll be destroyed and we'll deserve it" to "unggh, Daddy Trump, destroy me harder" between 2016 and 2017?
Because the Trump cult got emboldened after Trump won in 2016, and it quickly became clear that any Republican that wasn't sufficiently "unggh, Daddy Trump, destroy me harder" would get primaried by someone that was. Kiss the ring or be excommunicated.
It's hard to feel sympathetic for them about it though, the spent the previous 20+ years paying lip service to types of people who make up the Trump cult because they were convenient for winning elections. They just never expected those people would do anything besides vote in the most respectable business-friendly Republican. Leopards, faces, yadda yadda yadda.
He was winning. Once he was the nominee the establishment republicans all got behind him because otherwise they ran the risk of being primaried
He's the best chance the fascist GOP has for survival. :)
“For Republicans, the only hope is that when Trump is on the ballot in 2024 … he will turn out rural voters at a rate that overwhelms that phenomenon. It’s certainly possible,” the source said.
Isn't it funny that the only "hope" for Republicans is to re-install a vile, amoral, nepotistic, habitually-lying, tax-cheating, proudly-ignorant, racist, fascist, rapist con-man who tried to overthrow the government?
Wait, not "funny," the other one...
Stupid.
I feel like if Trump isn't on the bill due to legal issues there's going to be a coordinated effort amongst wackjob republicans to write him in, resulting in some interesting results in the states that are traditionally a tight race.
Write-ins aren't allowed in some states. In others, they still have to be a registered candidate.
I think Trump will likely be on the ballot in most states, but I think there's a small chance he won't be in Georgia.
It’ll be him. He’s polling above 50% in the primary and every indictment has only further solidified his support amongst conservatives.
Can't win primaries without Trump, can't win general elections with him.
Those who support Trump are not a reflection of the values Americans have, but a darkness that America has surpressed since 1865.
Well fucking said man!
And will happily continue to suppress as hard as necessary.
Agreed and well said. The consistent failure to reject the historical culture that celebrated slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation, and decades of public and private racism have lead to an ingrained wrongheadedness in parts of American society. The reward for their ignorance and hatred is Trump.
Disaster without Trump.
Disaster with it.
Sounds like a you problem.
What is the theory of the case on how he loses the GOP primary? He’s polling higher than the rest of the field combined. At this time, unless he dies before the election, I don’t see how he doesn’t end up as the Republican nominee.
I feel like a lot of people would still insist on voting for him even if he was dead. Assuming of course that they believe the "liberal media fake news" that he's dead.
Honestly a dead Trump presidency would be a net positive to the world compared to a alive Trump presidency. Do a Weekend at Bernie's I don't care.
Every single day of Trump Presidency 2016-2020 was "What is this moron going to do today?" And just dominating the news. We are still feeling ripple effects of all the BS he rolled back.
Trump spoiling the 2024 election for the Republicans would be like a wet dream come true for me.
Trump runs into a issue with the Fourteenth Amendment where states can block him from the ballot. Only a 2/3 vote in Congress can prevent that.
Ok, aside from bad fanfic what is the way he’s not the nominee and on the ballot in all 51 electoral jurisdictions?
Legally he can not be on the ballot in any of the 51 electoral jurisdictions per the United States Consitution.
See paragraph 3. That might pose a problem for Trump.
It doesn’t. I get the appeal, but he is not charged with anything that falls under the clause nor is he likely to be charged with such. Historical and legal precedent requires a finding in law of such violation for the clause to be applicable. It’s wishcasting.
o person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Emphasized the bold part because I don't quite understand why we would want that to even be an option.
I imagine the thinking is that if a rebellion has 2/3 support in both houses of Congress, it was probably popular enough to not be disqualifying.
Are you threatening us with a good time? ;)
Surely they have searched the depths of their party to find the best candidate and this traitorous con man was the best that they could do. JFC there is no need to be a republican anymore.
You ask yourself, what do conservatives want in a President? They want people they don't like to suffer. They want to feel like their way of life is superior to any other and to not be confronted about it. They want to be able to inflict pain and suffering whenever the feel annoyed.
They want a King. Conservatives are largely people fit to be ruled. You give them too much credit, they are not cruel and evil, they are scared and pathetic.
Same thing that happened last time. Everyone knew Hilary was becoming president, and everybody was shocked when it wasn’t.
I knew Hillary wasn't winning the moment she said she was running.
My cognitive dissonance prevented me from realizing it would be trump somehow despite my not believing it would be Hill-dog...
I'm sad and embarrassed to admit that I voted third party on that one.
I also never imagined so far ahead to think how shitty trump would be if it actually went that way.
"Fool me once... Can't be fooled again"
Oh no!
... Anyway --
All that says to me is that we need to do our damnedest to keep him away from that nomination. I'll be voting in the R primaries next spring, at a minimum.
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