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[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 147 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, no joke, a dog whining/ begging is conditioning you.

I am a dog.

I beg. You give me food. I look cute.

I beg. You don't give me food. I cry.

Next time I beg, will you give me the food?

Probably.

After that: I look cute. You give me food.

Congratulations, you've just been conditioned by your dog, buuuuut you get a cute dog, lmao.

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 86 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I seem to remember reading that domesticated dogs evolved more expressive eyebrows that proved to be a survival advantage in this process.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Found the article: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1820653116

That is super neat, you're right! It was bread into them due to human preference.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 84 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, I'm not going to fix it.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Thanks, I just had a good laugh. ;)

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Mmmh, puppy muffin.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've seen a few things that have shown many animals have developed a sense of "cuteness" specifically to deal with us.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've long had a theory that cats have evolved to be just cute enough that we don't murder them. Cats are evil, so it's understandable that humans would want to kill them, and I think we probably did early on, but some of them were so cute that we didn't. Those surviving cute cats reproduced and made more cute cats, but they also became more evil. Over generations, we have created beings that are supremely evil, but they're just so gosh darned cute that we let them get away with it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well that and they kill pests. We also like things that are useful. I just wish they wouldn't put the dead pests in my shoe 😬

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Cats are an autonomous pest control system, that's why they're everywhere.

[–] outcide@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Cats don’t have any of the typical traits of domestication. Humans do.

Draw your own conclusions.

[–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Yeah they evolved to keep much more baby-like features into adulthood with a big head and huge eyes because that's cute to us and triggers strong instincts of protection and love. I forget the exact name for it. And my cats do be looking extremely cute all the time so it was very successful.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Too bad it's not Pavlovian conditioning afaik

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[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Replace every instance of dog with cat and you've got the reason I give out treats at night before I start cleaning dishes.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 85 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The correct answer is

Fuck Pavlov

Motherfucker is like the Hitler of dogs. It's a shame his name is remembered for the conditioning and not the mutilation. Dude was a monster.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait really? Ive never been told about this

[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, he cut holes in their throats so food would fall out and added additional holes along the digestive tract to collect various "gastric juices". He also, apparently, started a business harvesting and selling said juices as a cure for indigestion..... not sure how that worked, seems like it would cause more than it cured.

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 31 points 11 months ago (13 children)

My god. We don't deserve dogs if we are not adjusting Pavlov's reputation for this.

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago

Well, thank you for letting us know. I read about Pavlov in textbooks in school, its better we dont whitewash his reputation! I learned the honest history in school about nazi medical experiments, I deserved to know about Pavlov too.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

But the mutilation was part of the research I thought

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I guess Piccolo was right to curse out Pavlov.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Such an existential question in so few words.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Or.. it's just an obvious "yes"...

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 35 points 11 months ago

There is a joke about that:

Pavlov is sitting in a bar enjoying his beer. The phone rings. Pavlov jumps up: "Damn! I forgot to feed the dogs!"

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My dog trained me to get him water by lifting the toilet bowl lid. He doesn’t want to drink out of it, but he knows I’ll get up to stop him and check his water on the way. Now he’ll lift the lid then go stand by the water dish.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago

Alternatively: your dog has learned how to effectively communicate with you to ask for water.

[–] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Pavlov's dog is not notable for showing that dogs could be conditioned (bell = food time)

What it did was show that a conditional response (bell = food time) could cause a reflexive response (saliva)

Classical conditioning is not the same as associative learning.

Pavlov's dog is not about associating Thing A with Thing B - that didn't need a russian scientist to prove.

[–] Fwoggey@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I didn't know that! Also apparently the Barenaked Ladies had it right when they wrote Brian Wilson:

It's a matter of instinct

It's a matter of conditioning and a matter of fact

You can call me Pavlov's Dog

Ring a bell and I'll salivate

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What's haunting about this question?

[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i suppose it's that his intent was to train (essentially to control) something apart from himself, but he likely trained himself in the process (created something within himself that he did not control, at least for as long as the response was conditioned).

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[–] Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Your brain being altered without your consent/awareness?

[–] macisr@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Fuck, damn. 🤔

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Pavlov Pavloved Pavlov

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


Jeremy Parish, probably, @gamespite

Out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, "Do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time he heard a bell ring?" and now I'm going to be haunted by this question

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[–] JPJones@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

The mice will see you now.

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