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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 420 points 10 months ago (16 children)

I don't feel bad for the guy, but I don't celebrate this sort of vigilante justice, either. Prisoners should be safe from other prisoners. Prison is not meant to be torture, and recidivism is a massive problem in the United States. Chauvin will have 20 years to contemplate his crimes, and treating him and every other prisoner will only reinforce their criminal proclivities.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 233 points 10 months ago (2 children)

American prisons ARE meant for torture. Don't get it twisted.

If they were for rehabilitation or treatment, then we would see to that, societally. But we don't.

This is a small piece of why our justice system is so absolutely fucked.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago (5 children)

American prisons ARE meant for torture. Don’t get it twisted.

naw. not really. Prisons are meant to provide cheap domestic labor to the corporations running them. it's all profits.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 98 points 10 months ago

Well both those things can be true.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

That's a part of it, yes. It's the slavery loophole in the 13th amendment.

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (9 children)

i think you’re responding to a normative statement by making a descriptive statement.

for those unaware, here’s a quick explanation from wikipedia: a normative statement is “meant to talk about the world as it should be”, while a descriptive statement is “meant to describe the world as it is”.

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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So much this man. Guy was an asshole, but he and everyone else should be safe in prison.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's start with making everyone else safe, then.

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Very glad this is currently the top comment. I was worried I’d run into a comment thread cheering for violence that simply shouldn’t have happened.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 156 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Maybe Chauvin stabbed himself in a state of "excited delirium."

The important thing is, the inmate investigated himself and decided that he did nothing wrong.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 140 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I'm sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

EDIT - Also, this shit:

Chauvin’s stabbing comes as the federal Bureau of Prisons has faced increased scrutiny in recent years following wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s jail suicide in 2019. It’s another example of the agency’s inability to keep even its highest profile prisoners safe after Nassar’s stabbing and “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski’s suicide at a federal medical center in June.

Oh it's a problem all of a sudden. Can't imagine why.

[–] MidRomney@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

A shiv

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago
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[–] DABDA@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

I’m sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

Are we certain the wound was caused by a stabbing and not "Incarceration Delirium"? Or maybe it's a holy miracle stigmata!

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 139 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Murderer. The proper way to refer to him, mainstream news, is "the murderer Derek Chauvin". He was convicted of murdering George Floyd.

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[–] bricklove@midwest.social 125 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I feel this whole case is everything wrong with the justice system (aside from him actually facing consequences). A corrupt cop with a history of violence gets attacked in an overpopulated and understaffed prison where folks are punished instead of rehabilitated.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Right, none of these things should have happened at all. It's just a negative feedback loop of incompetence and corruption.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This person spent a career throwing people into this exact system. Eagerly, if my perception of his past behavior after watching his entire trial is at all representative.

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 125 points 10 months ago

He should have just complied.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago (14 children)

While it's easy to not sympathize with a person like that, no inmates should be getting stabbed in prison. It's still wrong. And still a symptom of the bad justice system in the US.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Guy committed slow murder and set my country on fire. I don't even know how we would be able to quantify the damage he did. There were BLM protests in countries on different continents. There is now less trust of the police globally, there are were countless riots and deaths and assaults and fires, this mistrust set off cycles of violence and has set race relations back decades. We live in the world now that we rightfully can't trust our own LEOs and they have hunkered down.

There are zero winners here. We all benefit from a police system that works and has earned the public trust. So yes I will shed zero tears for this man. Because fuck his racist asshole

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

are we sure he didn't overdose? let's not jump to conclusions here.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure he would have been fine if he just complied.

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Of course this would happen, but yeah, he shouldn't have been stabbed in prison. I hope that's obvious to everyone.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should reform our prison system so this kind of thing doesn't happen.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 51 points 10 months ago (12 children)

But if people don't suffer in prison how will you make them afraid of committing crimes? /s

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 45 points 10 months ago

It shouldn't have but I'm not going to cry about it.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush, is a good guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While I don't particularly rejoice at the idea of anyone getting stabbed, I also can't possibly shed a tear for this guy.

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 39 points 10 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope he was stabbed somewhere where he found out what it was like to not be able to breathe.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I heard he had drugs in his system at the time which justifies the stabbing for some reason

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I heard he had a criminal record

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ohh so this is why murderers should go to maximum security instead of medium.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 37 points 10 months ago

Particularly vicious and unrepentant murderers who killed a man in broad daylight as his gang cheered.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Well now he has felt the fear of death from the violence of another person too.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Probably shouldnt have murdered Floyd ~~over 20 bucks.~~

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm soooo surprised an ex-officer got stabbed in prison. Who could've seen this coming?

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda freeing to be done with the disney channel ass idea that you should never celebrate others' misfortune. It lets headlines like this be heartwarming instead of disappointing

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That people are being stabbed in prison is an indictment on the barbarity of our prison system, so this should still piss you off.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Thoughts and prayers

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not a single person could have seen this coming

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[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago
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