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Gabe Newell ordered to make in-person deposition for Valve v. Wolfire Games lawsuit (www.gamesindustry.biz)

submitted 11 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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[–] JackDark@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The filing centred around the 30% cut that the platform holder takes, with the developer arguing that Valve used "dominance to take an extraordinarily high cut from nearly every sale that passes through its store" and that it has used its position to "exploit publishers and consumers."

Isn't 30% standard in every store? Also, Valve certainly has dominance, but it's hardly a monopoly. There are more options than any other OS.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, surely they can point to the Epic v Apple lawsuit and also point to the ability to install Heroic or any other launcher/software on their platform, and the judge will laugh the plaintiffs out of the courtroom.

I'm not a fan of the 30% cut, but that really is par for the course and any other company could compete with them on their own platform, unlike with Apple's iOS. So I see no basis here for a lawsuit.

I'm guessing the plaintiffs just wanted to meet Gabe and felt this was the easiest way to get a 1:1...

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A developer can even sell steam legs directly from their own site and not have to pay Valve the 30% cut. (If I remember correctly.)

[–] clearleaf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you mean steam keys or steam legs?

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would like to purchase a single steam leg, please.

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I meant keys, but I must have actually been craving some steamed hams.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah they don’t even force you to use steam on a steam deck

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It may be now; it wasn't when Steam first started up. But it was only 5-10% iirc more than the norm at the time.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Do you have some examples?

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What other digital distribution storefronts were around when Steam started? I honestly thought they were the first but maybe they were just the first successful one after using HL2 as leverage.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Publishing cut. Not digital store fronts. That's likely one reason why the higher than standard cut never got pushed back on. Your choice was allowing Valve to take 30% instead of 20% but also have entire creative control over your project and not be beholden to a publisher's demands.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Fair enough, doesn't feel like an apples to apples comparison to me but still an interesting point of reference.

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Timmy's going to hire a hitman to take out Gabe because he's eternally seething at EGS failing to take market share from Steam.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Tbh this thing sounds like that very much. It may not be an assassination attempt at all, ut the ridiculous rules to "show face when speaking so we can see how do you feel about what you say" is very much bullshit in this scenario. A proper written essay about the working of Valve would suit the questions way better than having someone put in person in a limited time to answer things out of mind under pressure.