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LoglineAn accident while investigating a time portal sends Ensigns Beckett Mariner and Bradward Boimler through time from the 24th century, and Captain Pike and his crew must get them back where they belong before they can alter the timeline.

Written by Kathryn Lyn & Bill Wolkoff

Directed by Jonathan Frakes

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[–] Wyrm@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My favourite line in the whole thing is right at the end when Commander Jack Ransom (played by Jerry O'Connell) walks past the poster of Lieutenant commander Una Chin-Riley (played by Rebecca Romjin) and calls her "The hottest first officer in Starfleet history."

For those who don't know, the Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romjin are married to each other.

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I thought it was weird and a touch sleazier than we normally see from Ransom, but out of universe that is very sweet!

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[–] SpacedBear@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Anyone else see Boimler do the Boim-walk to get away from Una the second time with Mariner there? I did not realize human hips could move like that.

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[–] Corgana@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loved having a Sunday morning cartoon 🖖

This episode was way better than it needed to be. I was genuinely moved seeing Una's reaction to the knowledge of her being the "poster girl", as well as the reaction of the Orion captain at the end.

Seeing Boimler and Mariner in this context really drives home how much Lower Decks is essentially "what if Trekkies could serve in Star Fleet" and it worked so well!

[–] Hogger85b@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially the poster girl part being how she (and her lawyer) presented her self in the trial in ep2

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago

Yes exactly! To Boimler it was a major and inspiring story out of history, but to Una it was a personal moment that happened only recently. Imagine being told something you did that you thought was relatively minor (and over) would inspire generations of people in the years to come. Her reaction was perfect.

[–] williams_482@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Poor Christine Chapel! Now she knows what the audience has always known: her relationship with Spock is ultimately doomed. Plus a delightful mix of guilt and fear that she could unwittingly cause Spock to never measure up to the vague but crucial future that Boimler mentioned to her in the turbolift, simply by trying to make the two of them happy.

That suuuuuucks.

[–] hmantegazzi@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

I really didn't expected the emotional moments, but they were all done so well

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

THAT WAS SO GOOOOOOOODDDDDD!!! Couldn't stop smiling through that whole episode!!
They were perfect for their roles in live action as well. Love how they kept their cartoony energy.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they're in the corridor and Boimler husslea off, and you see him walking a crazy walk in the background, that really cracked me up.

[–] FormerGameDev@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Section 31 speed walking!

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[–] Acid@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

This episode is one of the best episodes in the modern era of Trek, it's lighthearted it's funny it celebrates Trek and it's done so tastefully that I genuinely have nothing bad to say about it. It reminds me of Trials and Tribble-ations.

Plus that line at the end where they tell Una ad astra per aspera and that's why boimler joined Starfleet is just the right kind of emotions.

Honestly, they smashed it in this episode and ofc the 2d animated intro was chefs kiss.

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[–] teft@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

Pelia is quoting Carey Grant when she talks to Boimler. I thought that was neat.

I pretended to be somebody I wanted to be until finally I became that person. Or he became me.

[–] Tired8281@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

Holy smokes, I can't believe how awesome that thing was that I just watched. I'm awestruck at the talent it must have taken to pull it off so perfectly.

[–] Calanon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man, I really loved this episode. Very fun. Kinda sad we didn't get to see Tendi and Rutherford live action though. Would be great to see maybe some of the SNW crew end up on the Cerritos...

[–] Captain_Ender@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In The Break Room it is Tawny and Jack heavily suggest they hope they get to return to the set of SNW. That with Pike repeatedly like "please don't break things" suggests the two crews will run into each other again... I'm hoping Enterprise crew accidentally find themselves on the Cerritos next time!

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[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They NAILED it. They, somehow, took the loving but self aware fan service of lower decks and jammed it into SNW which has been the most consistent reboot back to the core of this series. This was absolutely some of the best show writing I've seen in a very long time.

[–] guru_meditation@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It really was perfectly done. I loved every minute of it.

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[–] theothersparrow@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An extremely fun episode, had a stupid grin on my face right from the opening.

One thing that jumped out at me was the adjectives used: "scientists, explorers, adventurers." The episode reinforced what Starfleet as an organization and Trek as a concept are all about.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

That was amazing, on par with Trials and Tribble-ations for a crossover. Loved how well they integrated Boimler and Mariner without losing any of the character as LD has presented them.

[–] guru_meditation@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is truly the best Star Trek episode, bar none. Hadn't had goosebumps like this since watching "All Good Things..." back in 1994.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

I loved it. I was ready to be annoyed they didn't do a LD animation style intro sequence but they nailed it; nacelle monster and all. Same for the ending; I was hopeful they would do the end scene LD style and again they just nailed it.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The danger with these "very special fun episodes" is that they can be confined to being just that. But what elevated this episode is how it used the time travel/crossover conceit to foreshadow, progress and pay off SNW character arcs, including Chapel and Spock's ultimately doomed relationship (something that I've previously said could be incredibly poignant, if handled right), Number One's legacy, and the way Pike confronts his fate. I hope the musical episode does the same.

[–] Continuumguy@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They also tied in to Tendi's story on LD (her constant reminding to people that Orions have a culture far beyond pirating), even though we didn't see her in Live Action.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The hidden line in the episode is that the crew knows they end up as historical icons of Starfleet and thus the line 'I pretended to be somebody I wanted to be until finally I became that person. Or he became me.' this applies to the crew now. It allows them to be more confident in their decisions and become the icons they are meant to be. This episode likely has one of the largest impacts on the character direction of the crew going forward.

[–] Captain_Ender@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Small note I LOVE that they're extending the "not all Orions are pirates" theme!!! LD did such a great job demystifying a race of people with Ensign Tendi and it only makes sense that their people have always been more than just a stereotype even during the TOS era. Was cool to see Boimler help change that perception with the Enterprise crew and confirmed when the Orion science captain saying "that's all we wanted" about being seen as explorers just like Star Fleet!

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[–] hivemind@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frakes has directed two Orville episodes (so far), and arguably brought his experience over to SNW, as Boims and Mariner were fan[boy|girl]ing about, it had serious "Orville" vibes to it. I don't think they could have picked a better director.

The bit where Ortegas and Uhura were gushing about the NX-01 crew and suddenly realizing that's why their guests were gushing was priceless.

"What would come after the dash?"

And both Jack and Tawny crushed it as the live action versions of their characters. (Both were over-the-top, and that was the point).

I wonder if that "Riker!" Gag was improvised and if so, how long it had Frakes (and/or the crew) laughing.

The LD-style intro was chefs kiss perfect. The coda was, likewise, a perfect capstone.

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[–] Continuumguy@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Thoughts and observations as I watched over at the "other place", special Saturday night/early Sunday morning edition:

  • AHHHHH, WE'RE DOING THIS ON A SATURDAY!
  • AHHHHH, WE'RE GETTING THE CROSSOVER!
  • AHHHHH, A CROSSOVER BETWEEN A CARTOON COMEDY AND A LIVE ACTION DRAMA!
  • AHHHHH, IN GENERAL!
  • First off, that they have "Those Old Scientists" as the title is (chef's kiss).
  • Previously: Nyota had a really bad day, La'An got a bad case of Kirk hotness, and Chapel/Spock had a bad case of hotness for each other
  • OH GOD WE'RE STARTING ANIMATED
  • "Numero Una"
  • Tendi would like to remind you all that the Orions have a rich and varied history.
  • "You guys look... very realistic."
  • AHHHH, ANIMATED OPENING CREDITS!
  • Hahaha, the thing that eats the Ceritos Nacelle!
  • AHHHH, THE KOALA AT THE END OF THE CREDITS! WHY IS IT SMILING, WHAT DOES IT KNOW!?!?
  • "But flipping it open is the best part"
  • "Computer, end program."
  • "Worf's honor." DANGIT!
  • I wonder if Frakes showed Quaid how to properly do a Riker maneuver
  • "You just... laughed."
  • Ah, we're tying in with what Tendi said.
  • Boimler is a toddler knocking over furniture.
  • "We have jetpacks now"
  • Pike's birthday is a holiday... CRAP!
  • Boimler freaking out over the fact he made Spock laugh is such a Boimler thing.
  • Hey, a reference to his sehlat!
  • I like how they are using this episode to also move the other plotlines forward.
  • HE MENTIONED PIKE'S REALLY GREAT HAIR
  • Triticale, as opposed to Quadritriticale.
  • I totally saw Mariner coming.
  • Dystopian San Francisco!
  • "Have you noticed their references are weirdly specific?"
  • "Hot Spock agrees with me"
  • "It's a poster that is pinned up"
  • I feel like Tawny herself probably demanded a scene with Uhura
  • Ah, there's the Boimler scream!
  • "Holy Q!"
  • "They had a Trelane thing going on."
  • "He had to contour the hell out of the jawline"
  • "Oh, I already know." Hahaha, they finally got out-future knowledged.
  • Oh god, are they going to steal a piece of an NX?
  • Oh, just a piece of it in the Enterprise.
  • The "Mistress of the Winter Constellations" strikes again!
  • Of course Ransom calls Una the hottest first officer in starfleet history.
  • Hahaha, 2D animation Enterprise crew because they are drunk!
  • All-time classic.
[–] teft@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course Ransom calls Una the hottest first officer in starfleet history.

It's because they are married in real life. Jerry O'Connell and Rebecca Romijn that is, not Ransom and Numero Una.

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[–] ClarkDoom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boimler exclaiming “RIKER” as he hopped on the saddle had me howling. Frakes is such a sport!

[–] zalack@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I saw somewhere that the actor improved that line which means he blurted it out with Riker standing right there which feels totally in line with the tone of the episode they were shooting. It's funny to me on so many levels.

[–] Continuumguy@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, they confirm it in Ready Room. Apparently Frakes' wife was dying from laughter watching the episode when that happened.

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My expectations for this one were high, but I'm really impressed with how well they pulled it off. Tawny Newsome and Jack Quaid did a great job of dialing their performances back just enough, and the SNW cast went just a little bit broader.

Frakes is, in addition to an iconic Actor, the best Trek Director of the modern age. 11/10.

[–] Navi@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an absolutely fantastic episode. Loved every second of it! As soon as it finished I just wanted to watch the whole thing again (but couldn’t because of stupid work)

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[–] UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun episode. I lost track of all the references but I'm particularly delighted that they brought up the NX-01 and her crew, and that the NCC-1701 crew (what even comes after the dash?) is gushing over them, like we all are gushing over all the different Trek crews.

[–] Voyager763@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I deeply appreciated seeing some on-screen Enterprise love, because I feel like Enterprise gets a bum wrap.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Sooooo many people that never watched Lower Decks are going to be asking why there was a koala in the opening and I'm delighted by that.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

"Why is he smiling? What does he know?"

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[–] Mezentine@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot believe they had Boimler and Mariner move like physical cartoon characters and pulled it off that well, holy shit. We absolutely lost it when Boimler was tangled in the control panel

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[–] GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The episode was really good. I like the appearance of the Orion Scout Ship we see in "Journey to Babel", one of my favorite ships. It may raise some slight continuity errors, but who cares. Nice ship, nice episode, nice show. Probably one of the best episodes of Trek I've seen.

[–] Maolmi@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

It was ... the best of both worlds.

[–] zpm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I enjoyed it, fun and different and the ending did make me laugh with Spock's arm. I found I was less invested in the story as I was focused on the character interactions. Overall, I'm fine with it and it didn't have to be anything that is not trying to be.

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[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So many people were ragging on this idea. I think the episode firmly shut them up. This was top notch Trek! Fantastic from start to finish. I want more! Now they're complaining about the upcoming musical episode? Haters gonna hate I guess.

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[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm seeing lots of positivity here, so I'll be the boring one. I enjoyed it but they didn't quite land it for me. Things that would have been funny in an out-and-out sitcom felt wrong in the context of a 'serious' Trek show. For example, Mariner and Boimler having a really inappropriate discussion about how hot Spock was, while Spock was right there, during a senior staff meeting - it was a bit too jarring for me. You kind of got the feeling the 23rd century officers were all left wondering why 24th century Starfleet is so unprofessional. I think they got this the wrong way round by making it a SNW episode instead of a Lower Decks episode.

Separately though, given that we know Spock and Chapel don't make it, I like that in the two episodes since they got together they have hinted at two separate reasons why they might split up: first the possiblity it's triggered by them having different attitudes to reporting the relationship to Starfleet, and now Chapel's Boimler-induced insecurities about whether she might hold Spock back from doing something great with his life.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I think Mariner was just in true form. Nonchalant and flippant. The cultural differences are huge especially the technology they've deployed 130 years since the NCC-1701. The way Mariner casually suggests just making more of the element like it's getting a glass of water from the replicator and Boimler gives her a hard side-eye gives you an idea just how different their day to day lives are. Boimler was able to reconfigure the ship and navigate it on his own because the Enterprise is just so archaic by comparison to the Cerritos.

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