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Billionaires are lining up to eagerly fund Trump’s anti-democratic agenda (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 11 months ago by spaceghoti@lemmy.one to c/politics@lemmy.world

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In the 2020 presidential election cycle, more than $14bn went to federal candidates, party committees, and Super Pacs – double the $7bn doled out in the 2016 cycle. Total giving in 2024 is bound to be much higher.

That money is not supporting US democracy. If anything, that money is contributing to rising Trumpism and neofascism.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Capitalist markets adore stability, that's why they had to quell that uncharacteristic spate of increased worker leverage a few months back, as employers must retain stable, unilateral authority over the labor market.

Of fucking course they love the idea of an capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian. Why risk the peasants electing some spoiler bleeding heart that would prefer not to stick it to them every 4 years when you can have stable, dependably hyper cruel leadership that is no longer answerable to anyone? Sounds great for quarterly earnings! And at the end of the day, aren't quarterly earnings for private shareholders the very purpose of our American lives?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Capitalist markets adore ~~stability~~ predictability,

One minor correction. Stability is predictable but a state of extremes is fine too as long as they can predict it and account for it.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

American “Job Creators” have always been fascists. From the Business Plot, where they made the mistake of asking Smedley Butler to be our Fuhrer, to Henry Ford’s factories in Nazi Germany.

When Trump was whining about the election 24/7, they lost interest. Now that he’s going full-on naked fascist, he’ll have their full support.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Of fucking course they love the idea of an capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian. Why risk the peasants electing some spoiler bleeding heart that would prefer not to stick it to them every 4 years when you can have stable, dependably hyper cruel leadership that is no longer answerable to anyone?

because that capitalist exploitation loving authoritarian's dick is so small that he was comparing the size of his nuclear button to a 3rd-rate tin pot dictator's. Granted, you did answer it in the first sentence:

Capitalist markets adore stability

And Trump is anything but stable. Are some assholes lining up to fund him? sure. they're voting anybody in who'll push their policies in. (and by voting, I mean bribing the fucking hell out of everyone.)

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They won't care about climate change until a CAT 6 literally obliterates their supply lines to the third world they exploit.

They won't care about nuclear Armageddon until the bombs are literally dropping.

By stability, I meant market stability, meaning shooty shooty quarterly line goes /.

Capitalists have never and will never give shit 1 about the externalities they cause, because they resent the societies they profit from for taking so much as a dollar from them despite their societal damage. Workers daring to strike after they spent decades changing the laws to hobble unions is of far greater concern to them than nuclear Armageddon, because it's personal. It's a defiance of what they see as their kingdom.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

By stability, I meant market stability, meaning shooty shooty quarterly line goes /.

seems like nuclear war would put a kink in those supply lines, huh? not all of them think that far ahead, or that concerned about it. but there's a reason there's other bullionaires supporting democrats. while the republicans are objectively worse... if you thought the democrats were on your side... they're not. when you have that much money, politics isn't about demcorat or republican; and trump is a danger to many as much as others see him as a boon.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

And Trump is anything but stable. Are some assholes lining up to fund him? sure. they're voting anybody in who'll push their policies in. (and by voting, I mean bribing the fucking hell out of everyone.)

Because they're confident that they're isolated from the chaos their policies will bring thanks to their walled communities and private armies. Feudalism 2.0. If the king creates too much chaos and disrupts their income, they'll assassinate him and install a new one.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Who says it's quelled?

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

List their names out please

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just hear me out, maybe billionaires should be lined up?

[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lined up and taxed back into being millionaires? Sounds good. No need to be a psychopath. You'll have better chances getting people to agree to raising taxes on the rich than you will getting them to agree to murder.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago

Liquidating the several thousand billionaires in the world could eliminate world hunger and poverty many times over, and solve the climate crisis. If there was a button that would launch a billionaire into the sun I would press it nonstop

[–] Milksteaks@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The odds of any politician regulating and taxing billionaires is laughable. Itd probably end up being easier to line them up tbh

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Soil errosion is real, we always have good use for rich fertalizers.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yes, I’m quite hungry as it is

[+] twisted28@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a bid to return to feudalism, where the strong rule over the weak. Instead of a nation of laws, we return to a nation of men who determine whom the law protects versus who the law binds. They've been working on this for generations, and they've never been closer to success.

[+] twisted28@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I think most of the Republican base don’t consider this as a factor. To them everything would continue on as it is just better and with no liberals, LGBTQ, or minorities.

To the masses, Social Security checks would still flow, Medicaid would cover them when they are sick and disability checks would still come in the mail, roads would be maintained, mail would be delivered cheaply, stocks will remain trustworthy investments, food/water will be safe… Until the liberals are gone, then the funny starts.

The business interests think their regulations will disappear and profits will be made… never mind those other regulations that keep our banking system stable, the power on, and customers roaming around with money in their pockets to spend. For the unscrupulous businesses that will be true, but it will quickly look like the late 1800s with huge monopolies dominating everything… Until a dictator rises to power on the backs of the upset masses and it’s taken away…

But for the elites and the power hungry, they know better. They would rather rule in hell than than serve with angels. They see how a few have total control in Russia, China, NK, etc. They want it too, even if it means they would have no where safe to spend those riches.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. They know they have to destroy society as it is before they can rebuild it the way they want it. That's the point. That's why they've been working for seventy years to undermine confidence in the government, so they can justify tearing it down and replacing it with their own vision.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-011-9498-4

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No one has ever accused conservatives of being smart.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can I rob banks during this time and get away without repercussions?

No, that's a crime against the rich, who matter.

Extrajudicial murder?

Depends on your skin color and socioeconomic status.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why would you want democracy when you can just give your ~~body~~ buddy 5 million dollars to do whatever you want?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the hell is my body gonna do with 5 mil?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don't know what you do in your personal time.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is because they know climate collapse is about to be fully underway and they want to seize power before society completely collapses and there's a power vacuum.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Climate collapse they caused no less

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

America: the best democracy money can buy!

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

we look at their wealth, but their holdings that are just as important. the murdochs have redefined what it is to be evil running the fox network.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I wonder about who these people are that an advertisement for trump will change their mind. You should know what his deal is by now.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

It's probably more about getting them to vote rather than getting their support. "If you don't vote the Jewish Space Lasers will vaporize your guns!"

[–] politicalincorruption@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The Oompa Loompa vibes from this picture are next level.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

As more and more wealth concentrates at the top, the moneyed interests rationally fear that democratic majorities will take it away through higher taxes, stricter regulations (on everything from trade to climate change), enforcement of anti-monopoly laws, pro-union initiatives and price controls.

Trump has publicly vowed to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden and his family, and has told advisers and friends that he wants the justice department to investigate officials who have criticized his time in office.

Charles Kushner (family net worth of $1.8bn), the real estate mogul and father of Jared, who received a late-term pardon from Trump in December 2020, contributed $1m in June.

Peter Thiel, the multibillionaire tech financier who once wrote that “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” contributed more than $35m to 16 federal-level Republican candidates in the 2022 campaign cycle, making him the 10th largest individual donor to either party.

Twelve of Thiel’s candidates won, including Ohio’s now-senator JD Vance, who alleged that the 2020 election was stolen and that Biden’s immigration policy has meant “more Democrat voters pouring into this country”.

A loud pro-democracy movement that fights against concentrated wealth at the top, humongous CEO pay packages, a politically powerful financial sector, and tax cuts for the wealthy and large corporations.

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