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In case you're out of the loop, the old Steam Deck had Philips screws that screwed into self-tapping plastic holes. This lead to occasional stripped threads and often stripped screwheads.

Valve absolutely did not have to change their screws, and its probably actually against their best interests. While other companies around the world are constantly in search of new ways to screw their own consumers, Valve goes out of their way to update their screws to make them easier to install/remove by changing to torx screws and added metal threads in the backplate. Those who know anything about mechanical engineering know this is not an insignificant amount of effort they put into it.

This is a small change that makes a huge impact, and speaks volumes about the ethos of the company. It says:

  1. We want to make our devices last longer, and be easier to repair.

  2. If you want to buy the cheaper tier and save yourself a few bucks by installing whatever SSD you want, go right ahead.

  3. We trust you to make decisions for yourself.

  4. Most importantly, we respect you, the consumer, and want you to fully own and control the devices we sell.

Valve is by no means perfect, and there's plenty more they could be doing, but they've earned my respect and my patronage and I won't buy games from anywhere else. I will buy whatever future products they sell, even if I don't think I'll use them regularly.

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[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Are people continually opening their steam decks? I am confused at the opportunity to have stripped screws and dethreaded holes.

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[–] ascagnel@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Three thoughts:

  • Valve doesn’t use physical media, so there isn’t a need to enforce DRM at the hardware level
  • the Deck itself is sold at a small profit regardless of the configuration, so there’s no benefit to pushing users to higher-price configurations
  • Valve enforces its DRM in software via the OS

The biggest reasons to lock down hardware aren’t really there on the Deck. On top of that, it benefits Valve to have other devices running their storefront, so using off-the-shelf parts when possible makes it easier for others to use the Deck as a template.

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[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why Robertson heads are only popular in Canada I'll never understand.

Y'all missing out.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Canadians are saying 'Y'all' now?

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because hexagonal screw drives are superior, they can transfer more torque and last longer. What I don´t get is why slotted, cruciform and square screw drives are even still around when there are much more reliable alternatives to choose from, like Hex and Torx for example.

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[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

People ITT: it's called ranting and raving!

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I saw rant and got raved

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Didn't they change to torx and change the base they screw into metal?

The former is a mild annoyance, but they're a pretty standard bit now that anyone that does any electronic DIY has in their set. The latter is a huge improvement.

Must admit I didn't look too much into it though
but mostly seems positive.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 11 months ago

Aha, OK. That's my bad. When I read it on the phone earlier, I read the four point list as something you thought they should be doing, and not what they were doing. As such, I thought you were ranting against them.

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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Valve is possibly the closest thing to a non-evil company in the world today.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeh, you say that. But you know they finished Half Life 4 about 2 years ago and are holding it back on purpose

[–] YMS@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Mostly because they have to wait for Half-Life 3 in order not to confuse the customers.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When GabeN dies, shit gonna hit the fan.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that Gabe's son is being prepped to take over when the time comes. Hopefully he shares his father's values.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Dear God. Because Nepotism has worked out so well so many times in the past. /s

Just shut down the company now, Gabe.

From an interview with his son:

"If it's one thing I'd like to see Valve do, it's push it with more their ideas," he said. "The people there are the smartest I've ever met, the hardest working, the most inspiring. The culture at Valve is a very good one but they've kind of found this point where they're a working machine. And that's good, but I think they should reach out and do something scary. Do something that they don't know what the outcome is going to be.

"They make incredibly smart decisions, but sometimes you have to do something stupid. Sometimes you have to have a stupid crazy idea and say 'fuck it', go with it. Valve has a mindbogglingly enormous amount of resources at their back, and I hope they find the courage to throw it at something new. I want to see them push the envelope again."

Yeah this chucklefuck is going to break shit day one, guaranteed.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, it sounds more like he wants then to go back to the roots and developer a groundbreaking game, like Portal, or HL2, again. Which doesn't sound like a bad thing. To do something groundbreaking it probably helps if you dare to do something that is scary.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They literally already did that with the SteamDeck, it's absolutely groundbreaking. They created a whole new product category, but it took years of planning and patience and watching the market. It happened with prototypes like the Steam Controller, the Steam Link, and the original vision for Steam Boxes, as well as the nearly decade of work they've done on Proton to get Windows games to run well in Linux. It didn't happen with a "stupid crazy idea" that they said "fuck it, go with it." It started with a smart idea, well executed, over a long period of time, with many bumps in the road on the way to success.

Steam Boxes were originally announced in 2012, this is the result of a full decade of work.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you are correct, and that's why I think he was talking about games specifically. That's a grade A assumption from me though (and a bit of hopium?)

[–] tricoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

People here are so scared of bad things happening that they can't even imagine that something good might happen.

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