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[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile Denise Bryson is on Twin Peaks being totally cool and never the butt of a joke

[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that agents Cooper try to understand her instead of freaking out.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agent Dale Cooper is just that cool. Also Kyle MacLachlan is a super chill guy.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also David Duchovny plays Denise as someone who's just doing their job with honestly and competence.

[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

fix your hearts or die

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wanna say King of the Hill is safe.

[–] averyfalken@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago

I watch that show its actually pretty safe outside of that one weird episode where bill hits rock bottom and thinks he's his exwife though I don't really think of that one as transphonic per se

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's one episode with a drag queen, not trans. It's pretty positive! She thinks Peggy is also a drag queen and they become best friends. It ends that way too.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That was such a wholesome episode. Peggy ultimately didn't care when she found out. She was just happy to have a friend that she could relate to.

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[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Scrubs? That sucks. No episodes come to mind, do you happen to remember which one(s)?

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[–] haikunaaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] DreadPirateShawn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I though you said you were from Iran.

But seriously I don't think that episode was harmful.

Douglas is just a general asshole.

[–] DreadPirateShawn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The character is an asshole AND that episode is transphobic. More telling is the creator (Graham Linehan) who is a vocal TERF. I don't really want to pollute this space with his toxicity, but search if you're curious.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you tell me what's transphobic about it?

When I first saw it I would have thought it was trans-supporting, other than the detail that (IIRC) the trans woman was played by a cisgender woman.

The entire point of it is that the only thing that is stopping Douglas from being genuinely, incredibly happy, becoming a better person and living an actually fulfilling life in the end is his inability to accept a historical detail that had made absolutely no difference to his relationship. And, since Douglas might be the worst person in the world, we see him destroy that because of his own weird machismo values. Just when we think he's completely changed as a character, his shittiness on this one thing, emblematic of his incredibly toxic masculinity, comes crashing down on him. This is, darkly, funny. We are abruptly reminded that Douglas is an actual monster, to the point of fist-fighting with the person he loves. "Character is briefly happy but previous behaviour and/or shittiness of their character ruins it for themselves" is like at like 30% of Linehan's sitcom plotlines.

If there's something I missed - and it's been a few years, and thoroughly agree that Linehan's subsequent behaviour justifies examining his previous work for ulterior motives - I would like to know it. Genuinely.

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[–] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caitlin Jenner deserves every minute of air time in South Park though. JS

Not to mention Randy and her music career

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Twin Peaks is safe 🙏 Bless Denise

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Shout outs to Lily Simpson for showcasing just how bad these shows really are.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

getting back into arrested development and then getting to that episode

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The one where Bender becomes a woman bot to participate in the robot Olympics, I'm guessing? That one was kind of rough watching with modern sensibilities last time I recall, especially with all these recent trans people in sports debates. Also the one where they go to the planet where they switch genders. Is there any others I'm forgetting?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also the one where Bender is a pro wrestler, and becomes a cross-dressing heel. And there are recurring gags and side characters like the trans prostitutes. Overall, the show is fairly progressive, but some of those gags were problematic.

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[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why I love Star Trek

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Instead it's an episode thats either racist (early TNG) or ablist… as a trek fan even I recognize these shortcomings. Also I'm pretty sure I remember a transphobic episode? Somewhere in voyager I think...

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've seen sexism in early star trek before (like TOS), but I haven't seen much ableism or racism yet. Is there a specific part you are referencing?

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of those American Dad is the only one I know has a non-transphobic trans episode. Namely the rollerderby one.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Meanwhile, Monty Python’s Life of Brian literally had a male character who identifies as female and everybody in the movie is cool with it

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