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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So… if we eat an unrealistic amount of processed meat we will get sick?

Who knew?

Next they’ll tell us that swallowing even 1 mouthful of hydrogen peroxide mouthwash is unsafe.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Doesn't hydrogen peroxide just degrade into water and oxygen? How is it harmful?

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

Looks unpleasant but generally not dangerous.

I think that's the point he was trying to make.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

as little as one hot dog a day

That is a lot processed meat to be eating if its every single day. Who is buying more than a pack of sausages per person each week? Also hot dog sausages are surely some of the worst sausages for being highly processed. Don't forget about the strange bread used in hot dogs too. That must have a shitload of stuff added to it or it would be stale and mouldy. Bread shouldn't still be fresh days later.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

also celery salt, or juice in those bougie organic hot dogs, in places like whole foods is all nitrates too. nitrate/nitrite salts have distinctive taste and smell. many orgnaic brands might have celery salt. your safe if the ingredients isnt mentioning any salts or celery.

when your heating up nitrates, it forms things like nitrosamine which have been implicated in lab studies of causing cancer in model organisms.

smoked and UNCURED meat might still have the same nitrates in them.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 points 14 minutes ago

So what I'm hearing is we just need to return to tradition and start curing our own meats in our backyard smokehouses?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

But I only buy boars head so it obviously safe.

/s, although I did reluctantly buy some teriyaki chicken boars head that sounded amazing.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

"If we are indeed in the glitchiest of timelines, remember we have collective will. Collective authorship. We are not beholden to the nightmares of those men of old who envisioned the world in extraction and pain."  -  Zoe Todd

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I guess 7 hotdogs a day is a little high...

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Does ... anything happen on the way to work?

https://youtu.be/MRh91b74zTU

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

What is the definition of “processed” here? blended meat? high salt %? specific preservatives? artificial casing?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Only $209 per year for access to the content

Or

Similar research from around a year ago:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/378589731_Ultra-processed_food_exposure_and_adverse_health_outcomes_umbrella_review_of_epidemiological_meta-analyses/

"Introduction Ultra-processed foods, as defined using the Nova food classification system, encompass a broad range of ready to eat products, including packaged snacks, carbonated soft drinks, instant noodles, and ready- made meals. 1 These products are characterised as industrial formulations primarily composed of chemically modified substances extracted from foods, along with additives to enhance taste, texture, appearance, and durability, with minimal to no inclusion of whole foods. 2 "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

What a vague definition that totally misses the specifics that matter. There's an overwhelming variety of food additives.

Do you know where they eat some of the most processed food in the world? Japan. Some of the highest life expectancy in the world.

What are they doing differently? Without knowing what exactly the commonalities are, there is no value to this study.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Also what definition of "safe".

My grandpa eats at least one burger per week and he's turning 90 next year. So obviously "safe" isn't a measure of imminent and near term death?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

As always, unsafe never means 100% chance to kill. Not wearing s seatbelt while driving is unsafe, but it doesn't mean that you will not be able to survive to 90 is you're lucky.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but using a relative that does something unhealthy that got old to prove a point is not really scientific nor right.

We absolutely know that smoking causes cancer is a really unhealthy habit, yet we see people that smoke reach very high age. However the average smoker lives a shorter life.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 points 27 minutes ago

You're right, its a suboptimal example.

But I can conclude that its not so dangerous as to lead to imminent death / disability within 30 years. So how "unsafe" is eating processed meat anyway?

The article makes like you're doomed to develop colon cancer if you mom ever fed you a single bite of hamburger helper as a kid. Obviously, that's a ridiculous conclusion.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Would this mean that cultured-cell meat would be unhealthy too?

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

If I were to guess the biggest problem is modified fats and high temperature processing are the biggest dangers

So no, lab grown meat wouldn't have that problem provided they don't use modified fats or steam canning you should be fine.

The thing is whatever trace contaminants are in the substrate will manifest in concentration in the meat

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 110 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Habitual consumption of even small amounts of processed meat, sugary drinks, and trans fatty acids...

Followed by

The data showed that people who ate as little as one hot dog a day ...

As little as one hot dog a day? I eat like one every few months. How many hot dogs is the average American eating daily?

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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (8 children)

im okay with not living to 100 at this point, life is short, and id like it to be shorter.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 7 points 11 hours ago

"I would never commit suicide, but I would like to die naturally soon." - Zoltan Kaszas

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You don’t want to stick around for the climate collapse, never be able to own anything or retire, and fascist death camps / genocide?

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 1 points 38 minutes ago

What do you man stick around for? Those things are already here.

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