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[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don't think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.

Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the "Stop Killing Games" movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It's a shame that I don't live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here's to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.

Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago (8 children)

How about let's all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

One of the big reasons many people are "okay" with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.

The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said "Okay, don't see it that way, but alright".

At the end of the day, he seems almost incapable of admitting that he ever did or said anything wrong. So people keep making fun of him, since he's objectively proven wrong repeatedly.

[–] waggz@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

If you're not familiar with it, check out his classic wow hardcore drama. He's absolutely incapable of admitting any fault. And he and his mods just ban anyone immediately if they try to have a discussion.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either. He is a public figure.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.

[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 185 points 4 days ago (18 children)

I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 131 points 4 days ago (7 children)

And if you know anything about what he's talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.

Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.

And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.

To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.

[–] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 45 points 4 days ago

I hate everything about the language used here. Not your fault. Just hate it.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm glad that someone I've personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.

Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.

Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like ... eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.

This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.

I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any male dominated channel that ever "gives advice" gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.

I like stand up comedy and it's a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.

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[–] seralth@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Even Hitler out of context sounds good. Context is paramount. Never trust a good speaker with the extra time to edit himself in post with out the context of the original or their history.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. For example:

seralth@lemmy.world said:

...Hitler... ...sounds good.

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[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Egotism often translates to charisma and confidence, but falls apart eventually.

Also, a reminder, the "Con" in con-artist is short for confidence.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 20 points 3 days ago

I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can't look away.

When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.

I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I'd like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It's so comfy and when you find a movie you've never heard of before and you bring it home and it's really good, it just feels so special.

I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn't like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.

Libraries are so important for culture.

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 111 points 4 days ago (14 children)

I watch this dude sometimes, he says he's a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.

Would be nice if he at least admits he's a streamer and not a game dev.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.

Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 43 points 4 days ago

The job he got through nepotism?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that's been implied.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 102 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

For those who don't know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.

When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn't think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.

What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.

Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn't just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.

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[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 111 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Absolute fucking clown. He's just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is...

[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 107 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game

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[–] null@slrpnk.net 38 points 4 days ago (6 children)

But that's not even what Stop Killing Games is about...

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[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wish he’d stop getting any kind of attention at all. He is a fraud.

Dude had entirely disappeared from my timelines before every youtuber and lemmy poster seemingly felt the need to tell me about how naughty he is.

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[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm not relaxing unil it's 1.5 million.

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[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?

[–] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem

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[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Credit where credit's due

[–] DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I know it's not going to happen, but I would love it if legislation could go as far as requiring companies to open-source their engines and servers after maybe a period of time, or on ending support for the game. It could be done ID-style where the company retains full rights of the content and trademarks, which would still require players to buy the game to legally play it.

I'm aware there are a lot of cases where games include middleware that's licensed from 3rd parties that complicate preservation efforts. But if open-sourcing the code is the path taken, there's a simple solution for that: just release what you can, even if what's released is in an unplayable state without the middleware. It then becomes the responsibility of any volunteers to take that code and bring it back to a usable state however they choose.

This drama highlights that there's still a great need for better computer literacy. Anyone with even a basic education in how software, source-code, and software licensing works can tell PirateSoftware is full of shit pretty much immediately. That is, anyone educated who are themselves not grifters.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I am happy that it's a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it's Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it's something else.

Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes

[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can someone explain just what exactly he did?

I tend to avoid social media drama like the plague.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Misinterpreted the article, made a video about it. Ignored his own comments calling him out on it.

Was overall an asshole "I know more than all of you" through, tone and everything.

Then doubled down.

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Business as usual for Thor, sadly

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

17 minutes.

But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a "villain" to unite against.

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