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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Rep Paul Tonko is one of the NY reps that voted no to impeach. I work 2 blocks from his office and plan to spend my lunch hour every day demonstrating in front of his Albany office. I already called his office to bitch. I've got printed letters that say, "Congratulations, you're a fascist collaborator." Going to be stuffing those in envelopes with glitter and putting one in the mail every single day. Give me your best for my protest signs.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago

Give me your best for my protest signs.

I think "Rep Paul Tonko is a fascist collaborator" works pretty good.

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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Huh?! But it's clear grounds for impeachment! I hope everyone starts flooding their inboxes and phone lines...

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Called it. People need to set their expectations way lower so they aren't so pissed off about the lack of action from this party. They should also read up on the legal precedents that were going to sink these articles to begin with. Democrats would have a much better chance to impeach some of the Donvict's shitty cabinet members, (Pete Hegseth, ICE Barbie, RFK, DOGE) for clearly impeachable offenses, but decided to swan dive into an empty concrete pool. So there is still no sound strategy from the democrats on how to dismantle this nightmare and only pissing the public off with limp wristed slaps.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 32 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe we shouldn't lower our expectations and instead remove everyone from the Democratic party that doesn't meet out expectations.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow, you know, this is why the fascists are in power. You fucking commies are the same as the fascists, with your childish expectation of not being stabbed in the back literally every time you turn your back fron your chosen aristocrats for a single second.

You know, maybe, if you people had just fallen in line and betrayed everything you ever stood for and also maybe let us murder a whole bunch of you and send sone of you to the presidential rape dungeons, the dems could have behaved entirely unlike they have at literally any point in living memory, and gently chastised the fascists. But you didn't, you threw a fit instead of voting for kamala 'girlboss' harris, so now we're all going to die, and im going to feel so smug as i watch ICE take you to the concentration camp, knowing that I'm an entire paragraph down in that poem.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, the comment of a sexist democrat masquerading as a progressive leftist. I can see nail polish and earrings trying to cover up the misogyny and ignorance.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 15 points 11 hours ago

#GuillotineParty

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 32 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This goes to show that the problem isn't Trump or the Republicans, the problem is the United States of America. The only way things are going to get better is if America is removed from its position of global power and influence. If you care about fighting fascism and tyranny, you need to boycott American products, refuse to work for American companies and, if you're already working for an American company and can't quit, drop your productivity as far as possible. Do everything in your power to damage the American economy and reduce their power.

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

As Americans we have no choice in the matter. We're forced to power the empire like the human batteries in The Matrix in order to survive. And just like in the movie, we're born into a prison that we can't smell or taste or touch. We truly are the most propagandized people in history.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

How does this fix the government?

Edit: I realized that is a US-centric question. Allow me to modify it.

How does that fix anything?

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[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 14 points 9 hours ago

Sounds like some independents are about to be entering office. The people need to stick it to these paid traitors. They get paid a fuckton more than you with your tax dollars and then take money from special interest groups on top of that to fuck you over some more. Are you getting your money's worth America? Get these assholes out of office and put in some actual difference makers. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves watching what the country has become. Shame on all of you. Kick these losers to the curb.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 24 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I wonder what the reasoning is. Do they really hate the idea of Iran having nukes? Do they really like keeping Israel as an ally? I don't know, as a regular voter, what Israel does for us. They seem very unpopular

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They pay your politicians so that your politicians take your tax money and buy Israel guns with it from your arms companies, who give your politicians money so that your politicians buy their guns and send them to Israel.

They also destabilize a region with hundreds of millions of people, whose countries have vast resources and sit on critical trade routes. If people in West Asia were united, they would quickly move on to become a geopolitical power-house rivaling the EU. if all Muslim countries were to work together, they would be the global superpower.

Oh and of course racism. Lots of racism and murdering brown people. The US and many European countries love that.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

Don't forget cheap labor. Central America has fuckall for resources, but we do coups there every time our guy gets deposed because an unstable region means poverty means people willing to work for nothing.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's important for the Jews to control the reigon before the apocalypse can start.

It's the core defining beleif of Evangelical Christians, which the Republican party has been controlling with corrupt pastors since at least the Nixon administration

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

The reasoning is that basically every president in the last 5 decades or so has used the existing laws that generally permit presidents to use military force without first getting congressional approval. If that were unconstitutional then the laws should have been changed, but they're allowed to stand, so it's basically not. It's a bit of a silly thing to try to impeach over. The precedence of that being constitutional is massive.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 45 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Is there a list of names? Because if any of my reps show up on this list, I will never vote for them again.

I don't want these fucking dinosaurs running the goddamn party anymore. I want some progressives with teeth who have the backbone to fight the fascists head on. I don't care how petty or how low they have to get, I want to see them at least try.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 hours ago (8 children)
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Thanks. My guy ain't on there, luckily. But geez, there's a shocking number of CA representatives who voted Aye.

I hate this political party so much. Not as much as the Republican party, but enough to make me want to quit following politics because it seems like nothing will ever meaningfully change.

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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 75 points 13 hours ago (29 children)

Primary. Every. Single. One.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'll personally be sending letters to each of these idiots to remind them who they work for.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They know perfectly well who they work for

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

And it ain't (the collective) you

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking seriously??? These assholes could finally do something and the roll over. Pieces of shit.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Well, obviously. Did everyone just collectively forget that the constitution allows for a president to take military action without congressional approval for 90 days? What he did was clearly the wrong move, but I'm pretty sure it's constitutional. Honestly, the problem is the constitution itself.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 272 points 16 hours ago (31 children)

Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.

Find yours, call them, and let them know they've failed to represent the people interests.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 53 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Put him in a bigger peach this time, so he can't get out

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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 43 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: "This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs [Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi."

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 65 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

We should have never been involved in any of that shit since WW2. 125 bad decisions don't justify an additional bad decision.

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

They always bring up Obama and Libya. Which was a joint NATO led coalition after a UN passed resolution. Not that it helped, but it is not close to Trump's bombing of Iran. Not even close.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

TL;DR: We can't hold them accountable for their crimes, because they might try to hold us accountable for the same crimes.

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 58 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

There is a new website tracking whether politicians will go on the record to be against bribery.

I wonder if they will note this?

https://www.broad-center.com/

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