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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] aio@awful.systems 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 1 points 42 minutes ago

Fucking rude to drag lisp into this. How dare they.

The folks over at futurism are continuing to do their damnedest to spotlight the ongoing mental health crisis being spurred by chatbot sycophants.

I think the real problem this poses for OpenAI is that in order to address it they basically need to back out of their entire sales pitch. Like, these are basically people who fully believe the hype and it pretty

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The bullshit engine has convinced my dirtbag sib-in-law that they can claim squatter's rights on (and take ownership of) the house that they aren't paying rent to live in.

They've been there a year.

They're gonna be homeless before this is over and I can't get them to see reason. I feel totally helpless, real big Cassandra vibes. LLMs are sooooo unhealthy for assholes.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Minor bit of personal news: Newgrounds got hit with a wave of AI slop games recently.

I caught onto it back on Wednesday, but didn't get official confirmation until yesterday, when another user investigated the games and discovered the exact slop-generator used to shit them out - VIDEOGAME.ai.

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the work you do on Newgrounds! This sentence stuck out to me

No more worrying about lack of content or fickle UGC creators

Oh they're just publically advertising their company to be anti-union. Bold.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 3 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for the work you do on Newgrounds!

Appreciate it - keeping one of the last bastions of creativity free of slop is a thankless task.

This sentence stuck out to me

No more worrying about lack of content or fickle UGC creators

Oh they’re just publically advertising their company to be anti-union. Bold.

What is AI if not a tool built to abuse the proletariat?

[–] shapeofquanta@lemmy.vg 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

VIDEOGAME.ai

Gotta love how the website isn't even functional.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago

Gotta love how the website isn’t even functional.

Its probably been vibe coded by the fucks behind the LLM, I'd be shocked if it was genuinely functional.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's fucking abominable. I was originally going to ask why anyone would bother throwing their slop on Newgrounds of all sites, but given the business model here I think we can be pretty confident they were hoping to use it to advertise.

Also, fully general bullshit detection question no.142 applies: if this turnkey game studio works as well as you claim, why are you selling it to me instead of doing it yourself? (Hint: it's because it doesn't actually work)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 2 hours ago

I was originally going to ask why anyone would bother throwing their slop on Newgrounds of all sites, but given the business model here I think we can be pretty confident they were hoping to use it to advertise.

Considering that AI bros are

  1. utterly malicious scumbags who hate anything which doesn't let them, and them alone, make all the money ever

  2. exceedingly stupid and shameless dipshits with a complete inability to recognise or learn from mistakes

I can absolutely see them looking at someplace like NG and thinking "hey, this place which stands for everything we want wiped off the Internet will totally accept our fucking slop".

(Personal sidenote: Part of me says this story would probably make a good Pivot to AI.)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 15 hours ago

and next this one that’ll be making waves too

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ed Zitron summarizes his premium post in the better offline subreddit: Why Did Microsoft Invest In OpenAI?

Summary of the summary: they fully expected OpenAI would've gone bust by now and MS would be looting the corpse for all it's worth.

I also feel like while it's absolutely true that the whole "we'll make AGI and get a ton of money" narrative was always bullshit (whether or not anyone relevant believed it) it is also another kind of evil. Like, assuming we could reach a sci-fi vision of AGI just as capable as a human being, the primary business case here is literally selling (or rather, licensing out) digital slaves. Like, if they did believe their own hype and weren't grifting their hearts out then they're a whole different class of monster. From an ethical perspective, the grift narrative lets everyone involved be better people.

[–] cornflake@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

This Thiel interview clip is amazing

Watch Ross Douthat realize for a moment in real time that he's spent a decade making ideological bedfellows with a techno-futurist, fascist Right that wants to see the birth of a "machine god" & is in no way enthusiastic about the survival of the human race in universal terms.

https://x.com/jasonwblakely/status/1938639600907612610

[–] UltimateNoob@programming.dev 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] nightsky@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

I'm in therapy and much better than I used to, but from my past before that, I am unfortunately quite experienced over many years in having existential worries and anxieties about extremely unlikely things.

And then I see this...

Cosmic rescue mission [...] These missions aim to identify and mitigate suffering among hypothetical extraterrestrial life forms

...and damn, that's next-level thinking, even for me.

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

According to some scholars, s-risks warrant serious consideration as they are not extremely unlikely and can arise from unforeseen scenarios.

Guys I have found a way to phrase my anxiety in a way where every single word is extremely load-bearing

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 6 points 2 days ago

@UltimateNoob @techtakes This is … actually really neat feedstock for us SF authors, amirite?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

It's like that Star Wars book where Chewbacca got a moon dropped on him

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

New Yorker put out an article on how AI use is homogenizing thought processes and writing ability.

Our friends on the orange site have clambored over each other to all make very similar counteraguments. Kind of proves the article, no?

I love this one:

All connection technology is a force for homogeneity. Television was the death of the regional accent, for example.

Holy shit. Yes, TV has reduced the strength of accents. But "the death"? Tell me again how little you pay attention to the people you inevitably interact with day to day.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would also like to understand under what definition ChatGPT can be classified as "connection technology".

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 23 hours ago

ChatGPT connects your brain to a quality '50s-era psychiatrist, who can then lobotomise you non-invasively and turn you into a perfect office worker for our billionaire overlords

Also tell me more about how you don't have a lower-class or nonwhite-coded accent.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

All connection technology is a force for homogeneity. Television was the death of the regional accent, for example.

Listen to a Geordie for five minutes and say that to me with a straight face. I fucking dare you. (Not you, the orange site member)

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Another response to Ptacek. "Vibe coding as contempt for materiality" part is particularly good.

https://deadsimpletech.com/blog/material_girl

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nfultz@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

Sure, done.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Concurring with everyone else that this is a 10/10 read. This article lays out a very reasonable theory that explains why tech maniacs are the way that they are.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Probably worth a thread in its own right. I find the "contempt" framing to be particularly powerful. Contempt as illustrated herein is the necessary shadow of the relentlessly positivist "you can do/be anything!" cultural messaging that accompanied the rise of the current tech industry. (I'm tempted to use Neil Postman's term "technopoly," but I feel the need to reread his book at least once more before appropriating it wholesale into these discussions.) The positivism is the seed that drives people to take an aggressively technical approach to reality, and contempt is one possible response to reality imposing constraints through technical limitations. Not necessarily one that I have ever chosen myself, but I see now that much of what we discuss here comes from people who have.

Overall I think this essay is going to be a bedrock reference for a lot of people going forward.

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago

That is the kind of writing that absolutely anyone can get a thing out of. Will cause me to introspect.

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Was checking out the QOI image format and the politics of the dev and found that he is pretty comfortable around the ladybird people. (sigh) Also the r slur on twitter.

Really amazing that such a simple format achieves PNG sizes and faster encoding speeds. 1-page specification, though it's more like 2 with a bit bigger text, for bragging rights.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wait Ladybird is anti-woke? Sigh am I going to have to make my own browser?

(I know I know I'm a lot better about posting about wanting to do cool stuff than actually doing it, hazard of having a full time job)

[–] FRACTRANS@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I saw that but had completely forgotten about it in the meanwhile because I have the memory of a goldfish.

In the grand scheme of things there are worse controversies, but I would so love an enthusiast browser that is, well, "woke" rather than one having a faint stink of techbro worldview about it.

[–] FRACTRANS@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago
[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dominic Szablewski also founded the German image board pr0gramm where he is known under the name cha0s. It's similar to 4chan in many ways. That he enjoys the Ladybird crowd isn't surprising.

[–] flaviat@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

Woah i had no idea. Apparently he also made a web crypto miner used in hacked sites.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We were joking about this last week if memory serves, but at least one person out there has started a rough aggregator of different sources of pre-AI internet dumps.

It's all gotta be in the models by now, but it's gonna be a cool resource for something, right?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago

It’s all gotta be in the models by now, but it’s gonna be a cool resource for something, right?

It'll also be helpful for helping the 'Net recover from the slop-nami once AI finally dies.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

✨The Vibe✨ is indeed getting increasingly depressing at work.

It's also killing my parents' freelance translation business, there is still money in live interpreting, and prestige stuff or highly technical accuracy very obviously matters stuff, but a lot of stuff is drying up.

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