So usa dropping another 1 trillion and 20 years for nothing?
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2025
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We spent way more than one Trillion...
Im sure it will trickle back anyday now....any... day.....
I was kinda hoping the US would collapse into civil war before they helped start WW3.
Bugger.
Sure glad we dodged that Harris bullet though, right guys! I super wish I hadn’t voted like all the other cool kids though.
I have to say, the one good part of Trump in office is at least you lot aren't lecturing people on why invading Iran is good, actually!
Yankee go home. And stay there.
The US empire is a cancer on humanity
Hey dude, we didn't all vote for him
I said empire, not president. Dems aren't opposing the war.
Americans are the cancer of this world. Animals.
Hey dude, we didn't all vote for him
You remember when Russia invaded Ukraine, and the whole western world collectively decided being Russian made you ontologically evil?
Well, that.
Hello world war 3.
It’s being nice knowing you, humans
Doesn't a world war require someone backing Iran? Or do you mean "the whole world vs Iran"?
Russia is busy, Hamas is not available, Hisbollah is not available, Syria is not interested anymore, Huthis will send a few rockets again...
This could very easily spiral into a full-on WW3 scenario. Note, WW3 may not look like what you expect it to look like. We've been culturally conditioned to think WW3 will look like thousands of mushroom clouds over major cities, but that need not be the case. WW3 could be a large conventional war just like the previous world wars.
Russia is already bogged down in Ukraine, and the US and NATO are supplying them. Israel is at war with a half a dozen countries, and the US is supporting them, including directly entering the war on Iran. The danger of WW3 lies is revealed when you ask, why did Israel choose this time to attack Iran? They chose to because now was simply the perfect opportunity. With Iran's proxy fighters around Israel devastated, with the Gaza a smoking ruin, Iranian power is lower than it has been in years. That's why they decided to do this now - kick them while they're down.
Us getting bogged down in Iran, however, presents other countries with their own windows of opportunity. And the biggest one is China invading Taiwan. China has been saber-rattling and openly planning an invasion of Taiwan, to be done at some point in the next few years. What better time to launch it than when the US has already been depleting their limited weapon stocks in Ukraine, and just got bogged down in Iran?
China is already involved in the Ukraine conflict; they're one of Russia's biggest suppliers. Iran also is a Russian ally, providing them thousands of drones. The alliance system of a potential world war is already laid out. It would be Russia/Iran/China vs the US, NATO, and assorted allies.
This would be unlikely to end up in a full nuclear exchange. Direct invasion of the homelands of Russia, China, or the US are not going to happen. But we could see multiple large conventional armed conflicts breaking out in multiple theaters, a conflict between two vast alliance systems that between them encompass most of the world's population.
If that isn't a world war, I don't know what is. Nukes don't need to fly to have a conflict that leaves millions dead.
Us getting bogged down in Iran, however, presents other countries with their own windows of opportunity. And the biggest one is China invading Taiwan. China has been saber-rattling and openly planning an invasion of Taiwan, to be done at some point in the next few years. What better time to launch it than when the US has already been depleting their limited weapon stocks in Ukraine, and just got bogged down in Iran?
IMO, there is a lot of conjuntive in it.
For now, there were only bombs on nuclear facilities from the US side... No foot troops getting bogged down. Nothing getting bogged down for now...
You can always imagine how something could link to a word war. That would have already worked for Ukraine. That would have worked with Afghanistan as well.
The question is how realistic it is. I'm not a fan of painting the devil on the wall by declaring WW3 myself on Lemmy and saying goodbye to others....
US weapons stockpiles aren’t depleted in the slightest. You guys sent your old stuff to Ukraine and not much more, and you haven’t sent anything substantial in over a year.
Iran will, most likely, not involve more than an air campaign and the US can do that with a bomber wing and a carrier strike group. I can’t imagine a case where this evolves into a full invasion (but of course with trump you can never be sure).
If anything, seeing Iran getting dominated by Israel and the US would probably give China some doubts about a possible operation against Taiwan.
Well. China will invade Taiwan, pearl harbouring us bases in Japan before hand.
Bada Bing. Bada boom. Shooting war starts
How is Iran even a factor in that case then?
When China invades Taiwan, that itself has a lot of potential for escalation. Bada Bing. Bada boom. Iran might be completely irrelevant in such a war.
Never thought I live to see someone fuck up worse than Bush Jr.
He just got the US into a war where there's nothing to gain, zero upsides other than bending the k we to Israel.
fuck up worse than Bush Jr
Trump is an enemy to the US. He isn't fucking up, we're letting him succeed.
We are only 6 months in….. fuck us
Musta missed 2019 when the US was caught with their pants down during a global pandemic, despite having a pandemic plan in place just a few years prior. Ultimately ended up killing over a million Americans... And the guy got re-elected.
Ugh. This kind of hits hard.
I know people who are active in the military (yes they are stupid and yes it doesn't take much analysis to figure out they're probably magats). In particular I know several who have been to Kuwait and seem to regularly get stationed there.
I've known several people who died by suicide from PTSD from Kuwait, or Iraq.
There's a girl, she's a sergeant. She's in until 2028, been to Kuwait already. I don't know if she's even 23. She certainly doesn't come off as a magat. But it doesn't really matter. 23 is an adult yes. But to me? I'm 34? She's just starting life out. To get killed in this kind of war is gross.
What's next? Launching a war against the Ukraine to appear Putin?
You dumb fucking orange man.
Happy 3rd war in the Middle East everyone!
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