Not just cameras... Probes👽😮
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It's called Dark Matter. C'mon, what's more likely, 85% of the universe is completely unobservable by chance? Or by design?
Any post-scarcity civilization that advances past Prime Directive territory just quantum-shifts half a dimension to the left so they can all hang out together without bothering anyone else.
Aliens don't judge you, though. No judgemental species can collaborate long enough to go Dark, you either evolve past those primitive instincts or self-destruct.
Which is probably why they haven't tried to make contact. "Oh look! It's a planet full of fundamentalist chimps with nuclear weapons" "should we pop over and say hi?" "Nah, fuck that noise!"
This is a topic in the 3 body problem series of books. The aliens have photons (?) that spy on everything the humans do so the humans have no way of planning against their attack without them knowing. The humans assign a few people to make plans with no oversight and without telling anyone else their plan.
Highly recommend the books.
photons (?)
Sophon
There was a TV SciFi series for kids with some guys from the future arriving in our time to solve an issue, and they had cameras the size of pins they could stick anywhere to see what's happening.
The fun of the series was that those guys from the future had barely a clue how to blend in in our time, with a historian of them trying to make them fit in.
judging
So when the hell do we find out the results from the judging? What can we win?
"Congratulations human! You've won the 'most depraved' award! You've been deemed not worth enslaving, instead you'll be rewarded with a swift and painless death!"
Joke's on them, I'm vanilla AF.
Unless these aliens can break the laws of physics their cameras will produce heat and have to send signals somewhere. So we'll be able to detect them.
Humans didn't even have the technology to observe most of the eletromagnegtic spectrum for like practically all of human history apart from the recent hundred of years or so, bold of you to assume there isn't higher form of techology that's undetectable to us. I mean, the North Sentinese and other uncontacted tribes around the world still can't even fanthom that we are talking to each other using radiowaves in the air.
There is this sci-fi novel called Three Body Problem and
spoiler
the aliens used a high tech AI supercomputer called the "Sophons" that can be invisible to humans and are spying on Earth in order to plan for an invasion. Humans only figured out after scientists started dying, seemingly mysteriously.
Its sci-fi, but like, they could just take advantage of the tech we already have and hack our servers to gather data, and even if humans figure it out about the hacking, they would just think it was human criminal and its just labeled as a "databreach". (Who knows, maybe one of the databreaches are actually just aliens gathering data.)
Like... goverments run by humans already out so much cameras in the streets, aliens can just... tap into the feed lol. Use our own surveillance state against us.
bold of you to assume there isn’t higher form of techology that’s undetectable to us.
I think it's very unlikely that there will ever be a technology that can get around fundamental laws of nature, like entropy.
Same way people in the past probably said there's no way you can make anything work without a mechanical mechanism? Can you imagine what an electronic device/chip would look to someone from far past? People thought humans couldn't fly.
Those "fundamental science" is just us making sense of the universe in a way we can observe it and even then we don't know everything. Can you imagine how different the universe looks if you just shift the electro magnetic waves you can see.
Same way people in the past probably said there’s no way you can make anything work without a mechanical mechanism?
No, I don't think it's comparable. We've figured out most of the big picture, now it's mostly just filling in gaps here and there and making correction. I doubt there is an entire new force or field hiding that would allow completley undetectable communications from us. Maybe you could do something with neutrinos, we're quite bad at detecting them for now.
Can you imagine how different the universe looks if you just shift the electro magnetic waves you can see.
Yeah, I've looked through an infrared camera and seen pictures from x-ray telescopes.
Lmao. I've heard that one before. Almost 200 year ago in fact.
Just called it a bit too early. But that's mostly where we at now, technology is just catching up to theoretical physics. But I doubt we'll get many more discoveries on the same society-changing level like electricity or radio waves were.
But hey, it would be much more interesting if I'm wrong.
Heat is directed into the 8th dimension.
No wonder why the Red Lectroids are so permanently pissed off.
I tried going down this line of thinking too, but any assumption you make is predicated on the belief that they would use means that we are familiar with. Just because we do not know of a way to do such and such does not mean it does not exist. This post is referring to a fundamental epistemic problem.
Or, they can abduct people and anyone who says they were abducted will be called crazy? 🤔
The government and corporations can do that too
Bold of you to assume I'm unaware
humans are animals
The Aliens might also be animals, you know?
They could also be fungi, or bacteria. Or just straight up zucchini
All the more reason for them to judge out kinks
in the wild
can you define 'the wild'? what about houseless encampments, are those humans in the wild? we treat them like animals, so maybe you're onto something.
We put cameras in birds nests. Houses don't make us not wild.
Try sun is the flash the universe is a camera
We are inside a black hole being observed.
I suspect they'll just stop bothering with the surveillance and go straight for reality tv and internet porn, much more telling of us as a whole
The birds are watching you.
Try leaving bird seeds. They'll know instantly, because they're always watching you.
If you don't leave bird seeds they will find your car and shit on it.
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Sofons be like.
You know that documentary show “Spy in the Wild” where they film animals using animatronics that look like those animals. Well aliens are probably doing it right now to us. Lifelike androids are among us. Some of us are even married to them and have kids with them. The aliens are so advanced that they can build human robots that are humanlike down to the cell.
They live!
the lizard people be like
Baby, tech companies are doing all that right now.
Except we've given them blanket permission
And the probes are actually just cameras they put up our rectum.
Yes, we are. Please stop masturbating. Thanks.
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Well I’ll be darned
Come down here and probe my anus, then, you gray cowards!
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Those aliens will be vexed for sure!
Or maybe aliens just don’t care. We may not be that special.
Occasionally you do observe the woodpeckers in your backyard, but ignore the crows in the forest. Maybe there’s an ornithologist who cares about those crows, but most of us just can’t be bothered.
I mean, yeah. If someone had the technology to not only fly half a billion light years to get to our little mud ball (in person or with advanced machines) they'd have a trivial time hiding and blending in. Most likely for the same reason, since there's literally nothing we have that they could want other than to study us as a curiosity. The only resource we have that they couldn't find easier and more abundantly, or reproduce from samples, is our culture. That's it, that's the only thing we have that might be considered with the effort. Not water, air, energy, precious metals, phosphorous, brains, mates, food, slaves, vassals, soldiers, or anything else that would be worth the trip.
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