I don't think either strikes were good, but I do think that there's a double standard, Israels strikes were fine, but Iran's aren't?
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Lesser evil
Not even that for me, it's just Israel's hypocrisy.
Even if we accept every single bit of western propaganda about Iran at face value it would still objectively be far less harmful than Israel, and the odds that our media is exaggerating and/or completely making shit up to manufacture consent for another war in the middle east are pretty good
Considering the murder of the little Iranian girl for not wearing a headscarf, they seem to have relaxed that requirement. Still a shitty country. But the instigator is Israel and the USA right nowm
Supporting Iran limits the ability of Israel to commit to their genocide, support Israel only enhances their capability to genocide and supporting neither only benefits Israel which make use of their partnership with the west
Hate Iran all you want, despise them, that's fine, but we need to pick anything at this point when the alternative is Israel
It might be better for the gays in Israel, but what about the gays in Palestine, or simply the people within Gaza?
You can reform a state to treat gay people like humans, you can't reform a genocidal state
Was Germany a Genocidal State 80 years ago? Have they reformed? Did we do it, or did they reform themselves?
Supporting the lesser of two evils is how we ended up in this mess. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.
It's okay to condemn both, we don't need to support one side over the other.
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literally executes
Is there a non-literal way to do that?
Iran is killing civilians in Ukraine. Iran can burn.
Yah, I have no dog in this fight. I just don't want to get drawn into it. I am over the ME for good. No good actors.
However, I wish my nation would welcome refugees, the innocents who are caught up in this and need refuge and asylum. So... the US sucks too for not offering it. I cared for a young woman from Iraq, a refugee, the other day. She spent 8 years in a refugee camp in Turkey (d/t Trump immigration/refugee bans) before finally coming here. She has 2 children, a worried husband and she is pretty sick now. I hope she can get the surgery she needs.
Listen, years ago I rode with Juárez against Emperor Maximilian. I lost many chickens but I thought it was worth it to be free. When Porfirio became President, I supported him – but he stole my chickens. Then came Huerta and he stole my chickens. Then it was Carranza’s term, and he stole my chickens too. Now comes Pancho Villa to liberate me and the first thing he does is steal my chickens.(…) What makes one different from the others? My chickens don’t know. All over the world revolutions come and go. Presidents rise and fall. They all stole your chickens. The only thing to change is the name of the man who takes them.
―Old Man in Pueblo, Young Indiana Jones
Or for a more modern version
The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace: They never are.
No sympathy for either except civilians caught in between.
The best thing in this is that Russia may receive less drones from Iran used to bombard Ukraine, so that makes me happy
Yeah watching Iran and Israel fight I don't really feel bad for either side. Does suck for the civilians in the middle though.
You should read a history book sometime.
It's pretty "funny" the amount of people who imagine this as some "foreign conflict" between "two sides", when it's a direct continuation of USAian imperialism. It's not surprising that brainwashed libs are hating on an "official enemy". Libs and their politicians have supported these attacks on Iran for decades.
Me when people are cheering on Israel, a country that literally executes innocent children
haven't you heard, Gaza isn't friendly to gays, that's why it's ok to bomb all the people of gaza indiscriminately, including the gays.
Nah dog. We ain't cheering. We eating popcorn.
Meaning Isreal is behaving worse than them
Sure, but the enemy of your enemy is not automatically good.
yhea, but when your enemy is conducting a non stop genocide, i don't care who stops it as long as someone intervenes.
and clearly, it was non of the western liberal civilization.
Crazy that both these countries exist in the way that they do because of the us
Its almost like that should be taught in school. Iran was one of the nations subject to a CIA orchetrated coup because they wanted to nationalize their oil reserves.
But since its not relevant to vibe coding I doubt it'll make it into the curriculum.
me when people like you conveniently start to pretend to care about gay people only when something happens to Israel
The other 350 days a year they're "concerned" about the fairness of allowing trans athletes to compete.
Like most godfearing red-white-and-blue-blooded Americans, I spend about 16 hours a day watching girls' high school swimming, and let me say, it's a travesty that the sport is 90% trans girls now.
the coverage of it on certain outlets is 90% trans girls, that's for sure
So then what we have here is a conflict between unrepentant, even gleeful genociders, and a bigoted theocratic terrorist state... I mean. They're the same picture.
You're trying to whatabout the unjustifiable barbarism of the Israeli state Zionists who are hell bent on tying practicing Jews and the diaspora to their psycopathic crimes against humanity. Whether you realize it or not.
Isreal is backing the party that wants to do that in my country. Fuck em
Israel backs any party likely to win.
And trans people aren’t treated as equal and they are constantly attacked by their fellow citizens.
Oh wait that’s America.
I don’t know much about Iran, but do they have legalized slavery? Because America does.
I don’t know much about Iran, but do they have legalized slavery?
It's debatable, and I'm by no means an expert. But forced marriage is still a thing, where you sell your daughter to a man to clear your debts. If you ignore all the sex slaves, there are still about 600k people living in "modern slavery" conditions. The government isn't doing anything about it either from what I gather.
So no, it's not legal the way it is in the US through prison systems, but it is very much a huge issue that isn't being corrected.
But I mean between the US, Israel and Iran... There really are no good guys. Each of these governments does some real horrible shit.
Fun fact. Irans executions of gay people in its entire history didn't happen until after the Islamic revolution. Before then and all the way even before the rise of Islam, whatever state that occupied Iran now all had harsh laws against homosexuals...
But enforced none. Not during pre-Roman times, Roman times, early Islamic era, medieval Islamic era, modern Islamic era. None. Not until the 80s did it happen.
It means Iran absolutely can return to a time when homosexuals were at least ignored by the law.
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Thanks to Project 2025, the USA is not far behind Iran.
reactionaries. they can't handle nuance, only oppositional tribes.
ofcourse i do. our cops are racists thugs and i detest them. but in a fight between them and some serial pedophile child murderer, no doubt i will be cheering for the cops and handing them redbull until the pedophile is dead.
and israel is exactly that, they find joy in murdering an innocent family for fun and then block/bomb medical aid so that injured kids die a painful death. if they survive somehow then they do their best to starve them death.
I love Iran's queers and feminists. I hope they come out of this conflict better off than they went in.
Every country is fucked now. There are no heroes, only victims and victimizers.
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