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I’m 19M, my girlfriend is 17F. We’ve been dating for almost a year now. Her family has no idea though, because she refuses to tell them; and it honestly hurts. My family loves her. Her family’s Muslim and she says that’s the reason she can’t tell them yet, but she will… eventually. I get that they’re Muslim, but come on, we live in the West and it’s a free country. I’ve never pressured her about it but it still upsets me.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

it's normal to wait for a while before presenting to parents. for muslims its an especially serious thing. that culture probably doesn't have a lot of casual dating. regarding her family, you should be supportive in doing things however she needs you to do them. don't be a pussy about it

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 22 points 13 hours ago

Her family’s Muslim

That right there is the reason. Trust her on this one.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah here is the thing: honor killings still happen in Muslim families in the west.

Not saying her family is that extreme, but they could very well be. Even if they're not, prepare for a lot of problems when they find out. If a Muslim girl tells you that she can't tell her parents about you, idk trust her on her word. I know the feeling, it sucks, but that is part of the deal you made when you got serious with a Muslim girl

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 8 hours ago

Do what she says or she will be killed by her family 🤡

[–] sandflavoured@lemm.ee 13 points 13 hours ago

Hey there, am an Australian from a Muslim family. I too have the same, yet opposite, relationship dynamic as you - though our families are both aware now.

Formally, it is considered forbidden for Muslim women to marry outside the faith; her family won't take it lightly. Perhaps in ways you haven't considered.

Talk to your girlfriend. Ask her what she is worried about, and she will tell you. That is the best thing you can do.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 11 points 14 hours ago

Perhaps a slightly less doom-and-gloomy scenario (because not all muslims hate women): in many muslim cultures it's expected that a relationship turns into a marriage quickly. A non-muslim colleague of mine started dating a muslim girl and her family was totally supportive of the relationship, but he did have to marry her within just a couple months of dating. They were both happy to do so but they're a fair bit older than you are. Your girlfriend might not feel ready for such a thing.

Talk to her about it, and ask if she's worried about her family's reaction, what she expects and why. Don't pressure her into introducing you to the family, but clarify that you'd just like to know why. You can express you'd like to meet them of course, but just remember that her decision should be final in all this. That will help your relationship going forward, and once she is ready for it you'll get to meet them.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 20 points 15 hours ago

Yes. She knows her family better than you, trust her

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Why does it upset you?

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It could be for her safety that she's keeping you a secret. There have been so called "honor killings" of women whose dads or brothers suspected that she had dated someone and had sex out of wedlock.
Even in my western and free country of The Netherlands.

Do you trust your girlfriend? Then let her decide when it's the right time to tell her family about her, her very life might just depend on it!

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What the fuck? People kill their adult child for having sex?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Got a thread deleted for bringing this up, it's islamophobic and racist to bring up the medieval practices.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 8 points 15 hours ago

Sadly yes, it's got its own category of type of killing too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

And it's usually the woman that suffers, or gets killed.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 12 points 16 hours ago

She’s already part of a religion that hates her for being a woman, no need to give them even more reasons

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If she is still financially reliant on her parents, you should abide by her wishes on the subject. You should not consider it a reflection of her relationship with you. She is doing what she needs to do to survive and thrive.

Eventually, she might choose to rely on you for financial support. But, you could be killed in a traffic accident, and she would still be dependent on their support. Even after you are supporting her financially, she still needs to do what she needs to maintain her relationship with them.

You should not consider her relationship with her parents to be a reflection on your relationship until she is capable of supporting herself, independent of both you and them.

Until then, she is being coerced, to some degree or another, and you should consider that coercion when evaluating her behavior.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 15 hours ago

Friend of mine had the same scenario in high school. The only one who knew was the twin sister of the girlfriend. The rest of the family would never have accepted a non-muslim. It's probably the only way to do this until she's an adult and can tell them to fuck off.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I dated a Muslim girl. In college. We were both 22 and she still had to keep it a secret. Her dad called her every night at 8pm to make sure she did her work and was getting ready for bed. I often had to overhear that right before we fucked.

Don't be a baby about it. If you want to be with her, be in understanding and do what it takes.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

My wife is Muslim, had a very similar experience

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It sucks that she opened herself up to a relationship when she couldn't fully commit to it with you.

I'm sorry you're having to go through things like this.

Other comments raise a good point about Muslim culture and it's worth considering.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume America by 'West' and 'free country'? Ya'll are teenagers and she is a minor. Until she is in an independent position and likely a legal adult I would not engage in the affairs of her legal guardians, as close as you two may be or feel.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I do a lil American conjugation. Prefer it to youse, at least.

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They are talking about the apostrophe

Supposed to be y'all rather than ya'll.

I know because I used the same spelling until somebody corrected me on Reddit a few years ago.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Ah I see. It took me entirely too long (now) to notice the typo. I'll have to leave it there.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Yall is convenient and flowy. I am from the US (fml), but not from the south and use it regularly anyway because I just like it's sound and how it feels to say.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Dude, how many stories of Muslim father's that go fucking crazy over their daughter seeing an "infidel", have you ignored to not understand that there is a real risk she could be under?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 47 points 1 day ago

You've already asked yourself what's the worst that can happen. Now ask her what she thinks is the worst that can happen, and what she thinks would actually happen. Do not correct her or interrupt, and only ask probing questions so that you can better understand.

I promise you that her answers are not the same as yours.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

She's almost certainly doing it for a good reason. If you love her then trust her, damnit.

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 27 points 1 day ago

Nah dude. You gotta respect your girlfriends wishes on this. Maybe consider getting a place when she's 18 so she can get away? Will she be moving for university?

If her plan is to keep living with her family and never revealing you, there's no outcome to that path. But if she is looking to move or study or whatever, you might see a future for the relationship.

Talk to her about the future and where this is going.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 75 points 1 day ago

I wanted to date a Muslim girl in high school. She said she couldn’t, because her father was “very strict and wouldn’t allow it.” We remained friends.

Conservative Muslims have a very different attitude towards religion than we in the West are used to. She may be in a free country, but she is not in a free home. She is not keeping you a secret out of shame or embarrassment.

You are not stupid for feeling upset, but you need to manage that feeling. She is keeping you a secret because telling her family would ruin her life. Learn to understand that, and enjoy what you have.

[–] thisisnotmyhat@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

No pressure? You don't think being upset about it counts? Does it count as pressure when she's upset with you about something? Is your version of freedom the one where we're all free to do things your way?

Is it all about the culture gap, or maybe it isn't about the culture gap at all? Maybe it's about the culture gap as she perceives it, rather than the culture gap as you perceive it?

Maybe you should start putting the person you love first? Perhaps that's in your own best interests anyway? Maybe you're just bad at being selfish?

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 92 points 1 day ago

Her family is Muslim

She is protecting herself. I’ve seen this song and dance too many times in the Muslim community. She is taking a huge risk dating you and that should be enough for you to understand. If you love her, trust her, she is protecting your alls relationship in a way you can’t.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok lots of good advice and comments but let me simplify this for you a bit more.

If you trust your partner let them handle their family, trust what they say about them. If you cant, it ups the chance of break up because she is already stressed.

Unless you suspect you are the other dude or in danger stay out of it no matter how curious you are. There is literally a community full of stories like this and it always back fires when people get involved too early.

[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

This is exactly the right advice for this situation.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 178 points 1 day ago

If she knows the backlash will be insane and she still has to live there, totally understandable. Make sure you're aligned on where to go with this in the future. If she truly wants to choose a life with you she may have to break with her family at some point. You can't expect her to be ready for that at this time, but you also shouldn't be strung along if she never sees an actual future with you. Good relationships require honesty on both sides and great communication.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly, her family being Muslim is one of the more understandable reasons for not telling them. The doctrine of Islam quite directly prohibits a Muslim woman from dating a non-Muslim, or “infidel,” so the fear of backlash isn’t exactly unfounded.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Hell, I dated a Ukrainian girl whose father and brother both abused her when they found out about us, because I wasn't part of the Ukrainian community, or part of the Orthodox Catholic church. I tried to get her out of there but she wouldn't leave.

I couldn't imagine how this would go with a devout Muslum family.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

we live in the West and it’s a free country.

Yeah unfortunately to some people that doesn't matter.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 104 points 1 day ago

Respect her and her needs. If she doesn't want, there are good reasons for that.

She is underage, so that also counts maybe?

Maybe she is protecting you, or herself... Can you tell?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 79 points 1 day ago

I get that they’re Muslim, but come on, we live in the West and it’s a free country.

Unfortunately, that isn't up to you to decide for them.

Be careful, try to respect a (probably) different culture. You will not be able to change them.

Try to find out what is possible to do and tell, and what is good to do and tell. It's going to take some time (we cannot know how long).

If you behave respectful now, it will earn you their respect and this makes both of you a happier life.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 23 points 1 day ago

Many muslim families don’t allow dating, go straight to marriage. Being in the West doesn’t change one’s religion. That’s kind of a bozo comment. Assuming you can figure that out after a year, your question is because your feelings are hurt. I dated a Viet girl in high school that similarly didn’t want to tell her family since her father didn’t allow it. It felt like she didn’t care as I did. So I understand your feelings.

Are you gonna marry her? Would you convert for her? Then things will change. If not this is how it is.

[–] Gg901@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You may live in the west, be fairly liberal and think all that religious stuff is old gen but often different cultures don't live by western standards and stick to their archaic rules. I dated a girl for a few years from a different culture, she was too scared to tell her dad and said she would get disowned by her family.. so what to do... anyway didnt end well as i wanted to settle. A year later after we broke up she was dating someone from her culture, she calls me crying and says shes pregnant and wish she had just not given a fuck about what her family thought, fuked me up quite bad tbh like.

Try get a feel of the her familly, if you think you will never get accepted, then better to walk now, you'll find someone else.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Muslim extremists murder or maim girls who have "shamed the family" in the west too.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago

Honestly I get your frustration. Feeling like you're being hidden away...

But I think you're taking what you've got for granted. It sounds like your family is fairly liberal and well-meaning, but that doesn't mean her's is.

Even in the west, religious conservatism can get nasty real quick (especially for woman), so I can absolutely see why she might be scared to tell her family.

She probably doesn't like hiding you in the shadows any more than you do - you should be careful putting your feelings over her well-being.

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