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[–] Justdaveisfine@midwest.social 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is going to become the new AAA normal, isn't it.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

If people keep playing these games, yes

[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's why I only play AAAA games

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 4 points 1 day ago

Eh, i'm waiting for AAAAA games.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Reading that reddit comment section was depressing. Seeing people making excuses and saying just dont buy them. Redditors are way above the general player base in terms of awareness. Became they can actually have long form structured discussion about the state of the game. Even then the response is still "this sucks and its kind of greedy".

Seeing the things people put up with is blackpilling. It actually spreads over the whole industry. I wish I hated technology and gaming so I wouldn't care watching it be farmed by corporations.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly I think the fact it got enough backlash that Treyarch removed it is a good thing.

[–] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People normalizing and defending this shit by saying that are part of the problem and I would even say the main reason for this

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SuperSpecialNickname@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Thank you! 😊

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

It has nothing to do with reddit and has been going on since the days of frigging usenet.

When someone likes something, they find ways to make an exception. The biggest example being The DRM Wars where EVERYONE was suddenly an active duty military person stationed in an airgap in The Middle East and could not connect to any server to authenticate their game (but had no problem spending hours arguing on message boards). Then Valve say you need to use something called "Steam" to play Half-Life 2 and suddenly everyone is ready to say that Steam is different and not actually DRM even though the model wasn't that different than how Stardock or even frigging Gamespy were doing stuff.

Everyone hated microtransactions and that is TOTALLY the only reason people were angry at the Star Wars game that came out within a month or two of TLJ. Then Genshin Impact came out and suddenly everyone wanted to make it abundantly clear that that was okay because, yes, it is a gacha game but it is totally a fair one where you can do everything without ever spending any money if you just grind endlessly and use multiple accounts to hoard day limited currencies.

But also? People hated DLC way back when it was something you downloaded from a BBS after mailing the developers a physical check. But when it was a game people liked (Star Crusader with mutha fugging Roman Alexander!!!), it was suddenly okay.

Which is to say: Things have been real shit for coming on 40 years of gaming. And yet, by and large, video games keep getting better (not so much the games industry for the people who make games).

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh this is also the attitude of cod players who stuck around after the BO6 release. Warzone especially took a huge step backwards. 20 Hz server-side updates for a battle royale game is pretty sad

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was not my attitude. Been sticking with the game since the first beta and have only recently been getting bummed by the game. My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.

Was having fun getting Dark Matter and have it on all the weapons minus this brand new season. But see my post in here that I made about the game becoming less fun.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My attitude was: If I’m going to spend money on the digital deluxe edition of the game, I’m sure as hell going to get my money’s worth.

By admitting to the sunk cost fallacy, you’ve really only proven my point. You’re gonna find ways to defend the game more than you should, unconsciously or not.

I know it’s hard, but in this current era of live service games recording metrics beyond just purchased copies of the game, you should vote with your play time, regardless of how much you’ve already put into the game.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But I’m not proving your point. Nowhere have I defended the game.

I’m saying that I made my bed, so I’m lying in it. The game was an investment I made and so I was getting my money’s worth. It was a mental decision I made before buying the game.

It helped that I like Call of Duty and so enjoyed myself for a good while, despite Black Op 6 being a total mess that’s hemorrhaging casual players and now hardcore players because they’ve shat the bed with Black Ops 6 one too many times (they, being Activi$ion and Treyarch).

Though I like Call of Duty, I’m not a fanboy who will defend the game. I’m a simple 9-5er casual player who turns the game on, has a bit of fun working to a camo goal, then turns the game off when I can’t take being smoked by the supposed “skill” based matchmaking anymore.

I’m trying to show you that it’s way more nuanced than you’re making it out to be.

In regards to the sunk cost “fallacy,” it was not a fallacy when I first made my decision to purchase the game. I’m only recently at a fork in the road with this game due to its problems making it less and less fun for me. I mentioned earlier that I played the first beta. Don’t you think I would’ve not purchased the game if I hadn’t had fun then?

I have no remorse for my purchase of the game whatsoever. Many hours of entertainment have been had. However, it will be an actual sunk cost fallacy for my purchase of season 4 Blackcell if I’m not enjoying it and feel the need to continue. I’m currently at that fork in the road right now and haven’t decided whether to put the game down or not. Most likely will though if I can’t find a way to make it fun. If I decided to anyway, then it would be the sunk cost fallacy. Not for Black Ops 6 as a whole, but for Season 4 Blackcell.

Also, if you wish to throw fallacies around, I must call you out on the cherry picking fallacy. The part you quoted had neatly been cushioned above it and below it with reasoning as to why my purchase decision wasn’t an example of the sunken cost fallacy, yet you seemed to have ignored the whole context and just plucked that part of my post out in order to what, feel like a smug debater or something? Lol.

Congrats on getting me to repeat myself, I guess.

[–] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Next it'll be micro transactions for reloading.

I’m surprised that you don’t need to buy bullets.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago

And people will pay for it.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't play Call of Lootbox in a long while. Bet they still haven't done anything to fix spawns.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Well it’s no longer Call of Lootbox. It’s Call of “Micro” Transactions.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe you. But I'm curious which one is the MTX.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to assume the square saying "Reactive Bank Roll" which looks like some kind of paid emote.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is placed exactly where the most recently used blueprint used to be, making it extremely easy to click on out of muscle memory.

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Must be an oversight, maybe write them a kindly worded e-mail to let them know.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Activision has always been awful but they’ve really done their damndest to ensure I never want to play a COD game again

  • Requires a phone number to play online
  • Their UI is the absolute worst thing I’ve laid eyes on. It spends more time advertising other products instead of showing, yknow, how to launch the game I paid money for. I quite literally had to google how to launch the CoD remake because their UI was so confusing
  • install sizes are absurd. I still remember the COD remake took 500GB to install
  • and now micro transactions in loadout screens

And this doesn’t even include all the fuckery with their C-Suite.

I don’t know why they make it so awful to try to play the game you paid full price for.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 1 day ago

I saw an activision sale on steam and was like: wow let's see what they got in store. Just to realise that i don't care at all.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ya know, I told myself when they brought Verdansk back that I wasn't gonna spend 70 fucking dollars for BO6 just to help level up guns, and even though I was tempted I didn't do it, even when it was on sale. Shit like this is what reminds me as to why I shouldn't buy it. Yeah, I'll play your game because my friends and I enjoy Verdansk, it's a good map and is fun for us to play, but I'll be damned if I give them any money for it.

They locked one of the meta assault rifles in a season 1 battle pass (Krig) meaning you literally cannot unlock it and have to buy a weapon bundle to use it. You can pick the gun up off the ground, but not make a loadout with it without spending money. Luckily I've earned several of their free CoD points from previous free versions of the battle pass to unlock a bundle for it, but I shouldn't fucking have to do that.

I'll just cost them money to host me on thier servers now, until they remove Verdansk again and I'm not gonna play Warzone.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You can unlock older battle pass guns with the Armory feature but it is quite well hidden for some reason...

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago

The fact that they aren't even try to hide it and just overtune the new gun so much and people pay money for it is so disgusting and i don't even want to waste time on that ptw garbage

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

honest question. What's stopping mainstream gamers from just playing the best codblops for the rest of their lives? Is there really any draw to these newer releases every time?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago

The cod cycle is pretty much the same as fifa games. They make a new game, the hype is big, everyone plays it because the cool streamers play it. Then the hype dies down, people realise it's the same game, they don't want to work on the game and they get by with selling micro transactions until the game dies completely just in time for the new game to come out and the cycle repeats. It's quite fascinating to be honest that it works every time.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Simple, stop buying Call of Duty games. And for fucks sake, stop purchasing microtransactions.

I’ve boycotted Activision ever since I read how their treatment of a female employee led to her suicide.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

So we live in an alternative world where the Ready Player One villains won... Huh?

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Even without mtx, cod6 was the most expensive boring game I've purchased.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago

I kinda regret getting Blackcell for Season 4. Even with a boost via Blackcell, the battle pass progression is super slow. I’m just not having fun this time around. Always matched against teams of super duper sweats who play like they’ve never touched a blade of grass in their lives.

(As a 9-5er, in B4 “skill issue.”)

The game feels more like a chore these days.