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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Selling iPhones made outside US: bad

Selling MAGA hats and swag made in China: art of the deal

[–] UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Step 1. Add Tarrifs.

Step 2. Wait till the share price falls.

Step 3. Buy in low.

Step 4. Lift the tariffs again.

Step 5. Wait till the share price rises.

Step 6. Profit.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

If you think you can't ever put stocks on a hot sale think again.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that’s fine. iphones are so cheap, people can handle even 50% tariffs. apple is worth every penny /s.

going to buy a cmf phone 2 now…

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah. I'm typing this on a $300 Chinese phone with 10600mAH battery, reverse wireless charging, a thermal imaging camera, and it's waterproof and shock resistant.

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[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago

It’s extremely misleading to say “companies do not pay tariffs” and then immediately explain that companies do indeed pay tariffs.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how long is it going to take, before you realize its too late? if they didn't realize by now, they aren't going to

[–] Soulg@ani.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump will never ever admit he's wrong, but I'm curious how the voters will react when everything costs 50% more all of a sudden.

They'll probably blame Biden somehow, but I'm curious still

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Unless the companies eat the tariffs. But greedy companies will pass them on

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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago

The Art of Extortion.

[–] lsibilla@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

What about the components? Should they also be produced in the US?

Let’s be clear, producing the iPhone in the US would be more than a 25% cost increase.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This isn't about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The US is turning into my games of stellaris a little bit more everyday. Oh boy you sure dont want to be in my games of stellaris guys.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You know that is somewhat true. What everyone could see when I was kid has come to pass. The people like trump and the actual billionaires in this country sold us out then. They sold us out by moving all the manufacturing offshore. Now these same greedy trash humans want all that back since they have realized that the ability to manufactures products was the United States real power. They delivered millions of my parents generation into poverty and wage slavery to make a buck by moving the job overseas. Now these horrible people and their followers are doing the same thing to try to get it back. They don't understand nor do they care about the real people in this country. Only about themselves.

Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago
[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Did trump just confuse a possessive s for a plural s?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

That is the least of his linguistic faults.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

style errors are easily forgiven. study a foreign language or a programming language to get some empathy

suspending habeas corpus? he should be in so many heaps of trouble. the guillotine was a nasty, evil piece of work, and anyways

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 day ago

Autocorrect more likely

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

It happens to people and I don't know why

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.

[–] Salamand@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The worst take from his opposition: "trumps such a dumb idiot". And it's why the left gets out-maneuvered; they imagine those on the right as only either 1. Imbeciles 2. Racists.

The right sees the left as cunning, and strategizes how to outplay them.

The left sees the right as backwards morons, and strategizes how to insult them. It seems to be the main play, and is doing him a favor by shutting down closer examination.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump is a demented moron who has no fucking idea what's going on.

His faceless staff, led by Stephen Miller, are very smart and know exactly what they're doing.

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[–] Primax@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's coming true.

And again "tariff must be paid by Apple" really shows that he still has no idea how they work.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf the labor will be done by the minorities and undesirables they will keep throwing in prison without due process

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn't know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.

RIP

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This past Monday, John Stewart of The Daily Show interviewed Patrick Mcgee who discussed the jaw-dropping amounts of money Apple spent building out Chinese electronics supply chains which had deep implications. -It made for an interesting case if true.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

On that note, I suspect that a 25% tax is cheaper by far than the cost of building out state of the art silicon fab on US soil, plus the additional cost of paying Americans to do the manufacturing/assembly. Would you rather buy an iPhone for $1250 or $4000?

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He still doesn't understand how tariffs work...

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Isn't he just saying that he will tariff them so they're paying 25% more for manufacturing in a foreign country?

This is far left policy.

[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.

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[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago

This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (32 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.

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[–] foodconsumer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

iPhones not iPhone's... Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?

They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we'll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes

[–] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago

Don't buy Apple. Problem solved. I will not accept arguments about 'but the eco-system blah-blah'

Sticks Fingers in ears lalalalalala

[–] Flukas88@feddit.it 15 points 1 day ago

We can always respond with our money and not buy an iPhone

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good fuck apple they probably donated to trump

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[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

This perfectly sums up the shortfalls of Trumpian populism in the face of Late Stage Capitalism.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Tim Apple make your phones in America the king has spoken.

[–] Nocomment@reddthat.com 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

An extra 25% must be paid by consumers. Like every other tariff. New taxes be like that.

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[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 219 points 2 days ago (46 children)

Trump has become schizophrenic again.

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[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 161 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Even with tariffs it's still not financially viable to Apple to bring manufacturing to the U.S. and if they still decided to it would take 10to 15 years to get going. It ain't gonna happen. Sad oompa-loompa.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It sounds like he thinks the word "tariff" just means "payment". Then he follows that with "[whoever he thinks should make the payment]". Tariff by Apple, Tariff by China, etc. Honestly. I don't know how else you can make it make sense.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

Such smol govment

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