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[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Well it’s because noon means nine because the day starts at six o’ clock, so three is noon, but we use it to mean twelve which is closer to midday, obviously

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Hour hand -> hour = n
Minute hand -> minute = n * 5
It makes sense, there's just an algorithm attached to each pointer.

Hour -> 3 = 3
Minute -> 3 = 3 * 5 = 15

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Relatively funny but gets worse the more you think about it.

The 6 stands for 6, not 30.

When we have AM and PM it would be dumb to have 1-24.

1 is the end of the 1st hour. 2 the end of the second. This is why it starts at 0.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

0

She's a witch!

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago

The 6 means 30, both of which also mean 1/2

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Somebody never had a clock with roman numerals and it shows

I remember getting into an argument with a grade school teacher over IIII because most such clocks put that for 4 instead of IV because of some fuckin reason

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I despise these so so much. IIII was historically NEVER correct. Some doofus decided to put that on a clock because it looks more symmetrical with the VIII on the other side. Terrible reasoning.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Weird, I've seen many analog clocks with Roman numerals but always IV for 4.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

To be fair, Google searching Roman numerals clocks give you about a 50/50 distribution.

I wasn't aware of this either and I suspect we're not alone. It's not highly noticeable and if there's a 50-50 chance won't even see it...

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually called the "clockmakers four" or "watchmakers four." it's a thing.

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I looked it up and saw it is a thing, and it's interesting. I wonder if the clock I'm thinking of was just a really cheap one that was labeled as you'd expect based on Roman numerals or whether some just didn't follow it.

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Somebody gave me this clock…I just need the time.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

piece of art

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 points 6 hours ago
[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Clocks should use 24h format. AM/PM is completely useless.

[–] neonred@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

No it's not, with a 12h format on an analog watch you can use the sun to find true north. It is also easier to read it when the hands have double the amount of degrees to indicate the number.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

How do you find north on a 12h face that wouldn't work with a 24h face? Because the method I know, requires correcting for the 12h circle.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How the heck do you find north based on your watch? I’m pretty good at knowing where north in based on where I am.

I live in north Manchester so I know Manchester is south. Or I can look at the sun if not midday and figure it out.

[–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

How the heck do you find north based on your watch?

Like this

I live in north Manchester so I know Manchester is south

What if you go on a trip to Thailand and get turned around in the jungle?

Or I can look at the sun if not midday and figure it out

That gives you a very approximate direction.

Thanks.

I don’t generally go places like that, but if I needed to be aware of north I would take a compass.

Still good information though.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago

It's the same method.

The distance between the sun and 12 is divided by two, because the clock face only shows half the day.

If we had a clock with 24 hours in the circle and used the same method, it'd be the same as pointing at the sun and saying: South is where the sun will be at noon.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 54 points 12 hours ago (7 children)
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago

Goddamn metric time

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Why the 'IIII' insted of 'IV'?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Prevents confusion between the four and the six: III, IV, V, VI, when the watch is not held perfectly vertically for viewing.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago

Actually very common in watches with roman numbers iirc

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 68 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

IIRC they counted the bones in their fingers using their thumb and that gives 12. The first sundial was around the equator and there is always light for half a day, so half a day becomes 12 hours.

To count large numbers often one hand was used to count using 5 fingers and the other to count the bones, so you get 5x12 for 60 minutes.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 41 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

AIUI there was an aspect in the divisibility of the numbers being convenient.

12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6. 60 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30.

10 is divisible by 2 and 5. 100 is divisible by 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, and 50.

If you want to minimize dealing with fractions, 12 and 60 are far more convenient than 10 and 100.

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[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 26 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don't listen to OP's bullshit.

They work for big clock. They're trying to convince you 12 hour clock is useless so they can sell you double the clock.

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[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 13 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

When I become dictator of the world, this will be the new time unit: https://metric-time.com/

The year will also have 13 months: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

The year will be 12025: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar

Because these things just make more sense. You will thank me after a few generations, because habits are hard to change.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

I'd love to have a 13-month calendar.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Seems a bit odd to not use a base 10 number of months.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Redefining the definition of a second sounds very problematic.

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