Me, a social scientist as well: Bubbler noises
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The entire problem is very specifically that they lie about the economy in lockstep, and the media reports it and then idiot centrists are like "oh yeah I guess the economy is bad? People keep talking about it so it must be true."
They should never have been trying to court his "most ardent" supporters to begin with. It's the swing voters and non voters they need. (And the centrist agenda isn't the way to do it.)
Wasn't this settled way back when?
Anyway, I seem to remember that digging deeper on donvict's base after Hillary's deplorables "gaffe" (not a fucking "gaffe" to tell the goddamn truth about awful people) found that she was basically correct - a portion of them are racists, xenophobes, homophobes, misogynists...
It goes something like this: Trump’s biggest supporters are motivated by bigotry and want him to hurt the people they dislike.
Hence his supporter whining that he's not hurting the people he "needs" to be hurting. I'm sure many of us personally know people just like this and most definitely do get a chubby when they think about someone like donvict actively harming certain segments of society.
The Trump supporters I know definitely are
"are we the baddies?"
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Is the bear Catholic?
I hear the new pope likes camping, so likely, yes.
Took them long to find out the obvious answer. Nice they finally did.
Their findings will be published in the "Journal Of No Shit Sherlock."
Is a circle round?
No. Like the earth, a circle is flat.
mic drop
Hmmm, I wonder if the political base that waves Confederate and nazi flags, serves a fascist dictatorship, and works alongside fascists globally might be racist? What a real head scratcher that is, who knows really
/s
I'm sure many don't think they're racist but most if not all probably buy into the line that we all have an equal playing field in life and any statement to the contrary is just victimhood.
Nobody wakes up in the morning, gets out bed, and enters the world with the intent to be an asshole. Yet there are a ton of assholes in the world.
Everyone does shitty things from time to time. The difference between an asshole and a good person is that the good person realizes when they've been shitty and tries to learn something from the experience.
The ones I talk to, now, openly admit that Muslims are "scary", gays are "disgusting", and women are "lesser".
The same bunch usually think going to university somehow "taints" someone.
Of course they either overlook or don't know that plenty of the people they vote for went to college, too.
Talking to my aunt Linda, eh?
What scares me more isnt the men who think women are lesser. What scares me are the women who think women are lesser, and want men who think that too
Women who are like that usually change their mind after a couple of years buckled into the yoke. There's currently a whole group of women stuck in golden handcuffs in the trad wife influencer community who are miserable in their relationships but making too much ad money to consider stopping.
Yes.
Research done.
Holy fuck, an exception to Betteridge's Law
Not necessarily, some of them could be not racist but too dumb to see the conflict.
If you read/hear anything people in Trump's orbit are pushing as policy and ignore the vehemently racist overtones, that doesn't make you any LESS racist for supporting obvious racists. That's like the trope of people saying "Well, I'm not racist, BUT........"
Same difference.
Not saying there aren't a lot of racists, but there are also many very dumb people. I've met enough of the general population to feel fairly certain that there are a non-zero number of Trump supporters who are otherwise tolerant people. They simply don't think about it.
You'd be surprised by the proportion of the population which spends virtually no time on self-reflection. They just kinda bumble forward through life. Most of these people inherit their political affiliation like a sports team, from their environment. They're not bad people, they just don't think too hard.
They're not bad people, they just don't think too hard.
I propose that they're bad people because they don't think too hard.
Not everyone thinks good.
Not everyone thinks ~~good~~ well.
Yes, that was intentional to further color the sentiment.
My apologies, I should've picked up on that. 😅
The “not thinking about it” is what makes them racists.
Eh, I try to use Hanlon's Razor whenever prudent.
Honestly, my experience is entirely anecdotal, and I completely admit that. I have not read this article yet, so I don't even know what the conclusion is (but I can make an assumption).
Disclaimer being what it is, literally all of the full-on racist people I know or have known are also MAGA conservatives. And conversely, all the MAGA people I know or have known are way more racist than average. I say that from the perspective that, at least in the USA, most people have racial biases to a certain extent.
I've been told things like "You don't have the right skin color to take the bus into the city", meaning because I'm Caucasian with "white" skin, I would somehow be an outlier among the rest of the folks taking the bus. Many, many times I've heard statements like "we can't even say [the N-word] anymore even though that's what they call themselves all the time" and let me tell you the people saying that don't say "N-word" they say the real deal that rhymes with chigger. They'll claim illegal "Mexicans" took their jobs, without a moment's thought about who hired those "Mexicans" or what nationality those "Mexicans" are. There's really no skin color other than white-white that doesn't receive some hate.
Anyway, this is just old man ranting at this point, and it may even be too long to be readable, so let me summarize it with FUCK RACISTS & FUCK MAGA.
I am the son of MAGA parents. They were never overtly racist. They were always kind to my non-white friends and their non-white neighbors, always thinking that they were "one of the good ones". But since Trump has validated their latent racism, it has become more ugly. I think that's more insidious and dangerous than empowering the lunatic fringe, honestly.
Trump made a lot of people who thought it was a societal norm to be kind and hide their biases feel like it was okay, and that felt freeing to them. It’s also why many of them bray about freedom
When these types talk about "freedom" or "liberty", they usually mean the Southern definition.
“Things have gotten so bad over the last 4 years” is just a dog whistle for “theres too many brown people on my tv and no one says f*** are weird anymore”
So at least theyre still somewhat restrained
The average immigrant from Guatemala has had about 2-4 years of school in their entire life. They don't speak English and will never be fluent. There a decent chance they're not even literate in Spanish.
Now imagine who you have to be for that person to be a threat to your job.
Begin?
"Journalist remembers social sciences exist and start listening 10+ years late to see if it snags some web traffic" Trust me, social science and history have been on red alert this whole time.
Your just now deciding to weigh in on this? After how fucking long?
His base is fueled by a fear that the "wrong" people (people that look, speak,dress, act, believe differently, and that I don't really know) are trying to take the country from the "good" people (people like me, that I know).
The issue is that the only cure is to make people get outside of their box. I really started to realize this when I began working with more departments/clinicians in the hospital I was working at. What I've found is that the more you get out there and interact with people who aren't like you, the more you realize that broad generalizations aren't really worth a damn, and that there's more good people of all types than you'd think. The main thing they have in common is that they aren't fucking shitwad billionaires.
I used to show up early for work to catch the morning rush of doctors in the physicians lounge and see a Muslim doctor or two praying after being there since 2am because they were on call, and decided to round on all their consults before they left, and here I am rolling in hungover just waiting to pound out another 8 hours so I can go home and get drunk and high for another night.
Oh come on they can't be racist! There's people of color in that base! What are they, racist against themselves? Please, that makes no sense. That's like if there were Jews that supported the Nazis! Or black folk that fought for the Confederacy!
/s if that's not obvious
So... MAGA = Cucks? Once again, every accusation is a confession.
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