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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

  • yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title

  • no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other

  • The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.

  • These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)

  • There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[โ€“] Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

They can make Teflon without the forever chemicals. They choose to make it the way they do because it is cheap and easy to scale. Rather than develop better solutions that don't poison us they choose easy money and are rewarded for it.

[โ€“] Green_FieldS@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

For more information about this subject I recommend watching this documentary by independent journalism platform Zembla. That talks in detail about the company DuPont (Chemours) and PFOA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kzHc-eV88&pp=ygULWmVtYmxhIHBmb2E%3D

[โ€“] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

We poisoned the planet for us

[โ€“] bstix@feddit.dk 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For anyone who can't be bothered to watch the entire 1 hour episode: It's not really about frying pans.

The PFAs are everywhere by now. Butter on a pan will do jack shit to save you. It's really fucked up. You should watch the video.

[โ€“] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yup your most likely sources are stuff like:

  • your water supply
  • any coated paper materials coming into contact with (hot) food and beverages, eg. Burger wrappers, coated paper coffee cups, microwave popcorn, pizza boxes, etc.
[โ€“] skeezix@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We didn't poison the whole planet so our eggs wont stick. A small number of people poisoned the planet to get rich

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We did not do anything. A very small group of people indeed knowingly and willingly poisoned the earth for a bunch of monies.

You'd think they'd be jailed for that, but here we are

[โ€“] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This means that now that everyone knows what is required to produce non-stick pans, they will vanish from stores because 99% of humans are well meaning and will not buy destructive products.

Just kidding. My parents (>70yo) told me as achild not to use teflon pans, because they are 'unhealthy'. We all knew. We just don't care.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not "we". You. Many of us actively campaign against it.

[โ€“] Pogbom@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Given the ratio of people who actively campaign against it to people who don't care, I think it's pretty safe to say "we don't care".

[โ€“] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 5 days ago

Thx for being in the 1%

[โ€“] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm more inclined to think that they weren't willing, but rather that they just didn't work on the implications. Occam's razor. Don't assume evil when stupidity, or laziness, or simple plain cost cutring can explain things.

[โ€“] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Teflon found out and yet did nothing. That is willingly.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

May have started innocently but there was a point they knew and didn't care. That is the point where execs should be getting harsh sentences from

[โ€“] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

and they keep making the shit.

fuck

[โ€“] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"We poisoned the planet"

Fuck off! Unscrupulous greed industrialists poisoned the planet knowingly and tried to hide or minimize the fact from the public.

[โ€“] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

To be clear: This image is directed at the greedy industrialists.

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