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We poisoned the whole planet so our eggs wouldn't stick to the pan ๐Ÿ™ƒ (youtu.be)
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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

  • yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title

  • no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other

  • The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.

  • These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)

  • There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 67 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We did not do anything. A very small group of people indeed knowingly and willingly poisoned the earth for a bunch of monies.

You'd think they'd be jailed for that, but here we are

[โ€“] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This means that now that everyone knows what is required to produce non-stick pans, they will vanish from stores because 99% of humans are well meaning and will not buy destructive products.

Just kidding. My parents (>70yo) told me as achild not to use teflon pans, because they are 'unhealthy'. We all knew. We just don't care.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not "we". You. Many of us actively campaign against it.

[โ€“] Pogbom@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Given the ratio of people who actively campaign against it to people who don't care, I think it's pretty safe to say "we don't care".

[โ€“] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 5 days ago

Thx for being in the 1%

[โ€“] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm more inclined to think that they weren't willing, but rather that they just didn't work on the implications. Occam's razor. Don't assume evil when stupidity, or laziness, or simple plain cost cutring can explain things.

[โ€“] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Teflon found out and yet did nothing. That is willingly.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

May have started innocently but there was a point they knew and didn't care. That is the point where execs should be getting harsh sentences from

[โ€“] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

and they keep making the shit.

fuck

[โ€“] Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

They can make Teflon without the forever chemicals. They choose to make it the way they do because it is cheap and easy to scale. Rather than develop better solutions that don't poison us they choose easy money and are rewarded for it.

[โ€“] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"We poisoned the planet"

Fuck off! Unscrupulous greed industrialists poisoned the planet knowingly and tried to hide or minimize the fact from the public.

[โ€“] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

To be clear: This image is directed at the greedy industrialists.

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious where this money actually went. Like which specific people have it right now.

[โ€“] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These persons paid a lot to have laws that exempt them from any responsibility.

[โ€“] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

Sure, of course they're legally immune. Just curious who they are anyways.

[โ€“] accideath@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Got myself a set of ceramic coated pans just a few days ago. Am very happy with them. No PFAS at all and much better anti stick than my old teflon pan.

[โ€“] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

Enameled cast iron is like magic.
Worst case I let it soak for a bit and it comes out clean with just a brush in a minute.

[โ€“] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The trick is to use wooden spoons to prevent scratching. Egg sticks to the scratches and forces you to make more scratches as you attempt to scrape it off.

[โ€“] arin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (7 children)

The trick is to use any cast iron, carbon steel, stainless and heat the pan then add oil before cooking. zero stick when done after heating

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[โ€“] accideath@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

I generally use either wood or plastic when cooking with an anti stick pan (although, supposedly ceramic coating can take more of a beating than teflon).

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[โ€“] Green_FieldS@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

For more information about this subject I recommend watching this documentary by independent journalism platform Zembla. That talks in detail about the company DuPont (Chemours) and PFOA. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kzHc-eV88&pp=ygULWmVtYmxhIHBmb2E%3D

[โ€“] Chocrates@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Yay, my generations lead poisoning. Fuck capitalism

[โ€“] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

We poisoned the planet for us

[โ€“] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Use stainless steel and cast iron and nothing else

[โ€“] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Carbon steel, glass, clay, ceramic, aluminum, and enameled cast iron are all great too!

Also stainless steel has the potential to leach chromium into foods. Research into this is still preliminary.

[โ€“] Eximius@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

If you watch the video, it says there is no reason to switch, as teflon is not poisonous. The catalyst chemicals in manufacturing when released into rivers and other places is the biggest source. Then some shoddy packaging of fast foods.

PFASes are not only used for your pan.

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