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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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Everything that makes advertisers happy is to the detriment of humanity as a whole. Everything that makes advertisers' jobs easier also makes it easier for authoritarian governments. "Innovation" is no longer about creating new things, it's about taking what already works, breaking it, shoving ads on it and charging a ransom in the form of a premium subscription.

On the other hand, there are endless ad-skipping tools, pages and sites where the main attraction is the lack of ads without a subscription. More and more people are talking about how intrusive and annoying ads are, even those who make their living from them. As the efforts of big tech to please advertisers grow, so do the efforts of ordinary people to screw them.

Very Cyberpunk.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 10 points 1 hour ago

Yes, but you misspelled "capitalism".

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

The advertisers are merely a tool for the investors, the people who own everything. The "haves" as it were. They are always at odds with and trying to squeeze money and labor from the rest of us, you know, the "have nots".

Something something you basically just figured out communism on your own

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

At least you are an adult so you have the tools, cognitive and cultural, helping you see the problem. Imagine a very young kid, say 5 years old, watching exciting video content. They do not yet possess such ways to protect themselves from for-profit manipulation.

Just few days ago I finished the IMHO excellent "Buy The Mouse that Roared: Disney and the End of Innocence" by Henry A Giroux and Grace Pollock so you can already understand where I'm going with this.

Yes, advertisers are terrible, they make money by manipulating our thoughts, probing our deepest desire, toying with our emotions in order to sell us whatever is made by whomever pay them the most. But... you and I are fully formed human beings in the sense that we are adults. We spend years navigating through the world, getting scamming, learning how to spot lies and marketing pitches. The problem is, as showcased by Disney in that example (a very important example!), the process is not random. It is a very thoughtful and strategical one, namely how to transform a human being to a consumer from the youngest age.

Anyway I won't dig into the obvious but the book ends with a couple of practical links e.g. commercial free childhood (what a name, how can how even imagine that would be needed?) which since then became https://fairplayforkids.org/

If you prefer a video on the topic the 2001 yes still relevant 2001 documentary (52 min) "Mickey Mouse Monopoly - Disney, Childhood & Corporate Power" https://films.mediaed.org/Film/Mickey_Mouse_Monopoly/f56fd530-8724-460b-b2bc-6eba9868f0e7

I personally pulled that thread also thanks to the more recent 2016 article "Teaching Disney Critically in the Age of Perpetual Consumption" https://www.jstor.org/stable/45157190 but, again, the point is that it's systemic.

[–] flango@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 5 hours ago

There's a French film called "BigBug" that makes an interesting parody about this.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

With modern advertising techniques, adverts mainly work by psychological manipulation - putting a name in your mind, making you associate it with an emotion (for example cars are "freedom", perfume is "lust"), induce fear of a non-existing problem and then sell you a "solution" and so on.

It's like being the focus of a crowd of untiring salesmen who are slick manipulators with training in Psychology and with no ethics at all.

That's how it is every day in every place (even the comfort of your own home) in the advert heavy world we live in if one doesn't fight to keep that shit away.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Also, "problems" that are things capitalism created for itself, and then sells you a solution. Such as services that scrub old subscriptions that you don't use, or companies that get you out of timeshares.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"It's like being the focus of a crowd of untiring salesmen who are slick manipulators with training in Psychology and with no ethics at all."

It's not LIKE that. It IS that. It's literally exactly that.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Actually I think it's worse: human salesmen cost money whilst this shit is mainly automated or uses distribution systems were one person presses a button and millions get exposed to it (for example TV), so the numbers involved and the relentlessness of the pestering is far, far larger in scale than if human salesmen were doing it.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Advertising hasn't been that psychological since cable TV. These days, almost no work is put into advertising creatives. The goal is simply to spam and inundate you with messaging so the product is in your mind at all times. People have incredibly short attention spans thanks to smart phones so advertisements need to be virtually instantaneous in delivering their message.

Its really all about statistics these days. Very little thought or effort is put into advertisements.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Have a look at Perfume adverts on TV: they are literally entirely made up of imagery meant to make one think about sex and being sexy, with not a single thing in any of them about the actual quality of the product.

Car adverts too are similar, but their imagery is about things like Freedom, Family, Friendship, Party, Joy and so on (depending on the car). Almost none of them talks about the qualities of the actual vehicle.

Adverts not relying in this kind of psychological manipulation are the ones which look a lot like 1950s adverts and talk about the actual qualities of the product.

Under-investment into training advertising creatieves doesn't mean that the adverts aren't using Psychology tricks anymore because that way of doing adverts is now so widespread and common in the industry (because it works!) that people just learn those things as tricks of the trade rather than needing any kind of special extra training in Psychology.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You're talking Cable TV? I don't have cable so I can't see it but Cable is going the way of the dinosaur

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Any live TV - were I live they all show the same ads.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Online ads can be easily circumvented, I am more annoyed with giant billboards polluting public spaces. Oh well, one more reason to spend more time in nature.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Recently I've become more aware of how intrusive traditional advertising methods are: billboards everywhere, radio commercials interrupting the music, etc. It's incredible how immersed we are in that crap and how most of us don't realize it.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

One day ads will be unskippable, unless you get a 12 hr AdPass by watching 60 minutes of uninterrupted ads while eyeball tracking software monitors your attention. You will get mini games where you need to sing along or high five a friend. You can get an instant AdPass by purchasing the featured product.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fine, I will stop consuming whatever it is they are putting the ads in front of then.

Books in the library don't come with ads. But let's be real I will just emulate old video games on my PC until I perish.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago

They're working on defunding the library already.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Some time ago I thought of something: one day they will invent some bullshit that maybe they will call "Proactive Advertising", which is basically that instead of advertising a product, they will force you to buy it in order to continue enjoying a service. "Buy a Coke for 20 minutes without ads. Buy a Six pack for one hour" and so on.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks to enshittification I've gone back to reading books, so, thank you advertisers?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

NON ADVERTISER FRIENDLY MEDIA DETECTED WITHIN YOUR HOUSE

PLEASE GIVE IT UP WILLINGLY TO THE DANGEROUS MEDIA DISPOSAL SPECIALISTS DISPATCHED TO YOUR HOME

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You just need some special sunglasses to see the real messages.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 26 minutes ago
[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago

Datavampires.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Calvin and Hobbes warned us

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Is this a self affirmation or are there other people in your shower?

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

There could be thousands of people in that shower if they were pondering in the rain!

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would also like to know who else is in their shower.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

It is I, I am in OP's shower!

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I propose we make a massive product database. If you need to buy something, you can see your options there on a level playing field. Companies who spend more money don’t get any more visibility than any other. If you don’t feel like spending any money, the database isn’t trying to push you down a spending spiral.

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[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Started with 8Chan, where the same radicalised incels who support the rise of fascism worked in unison to move the Overton window. Allowing big Tech and Rupert Murdoch to constantly run propaganda against immigrants, whilst sustaining high levels of legal immigration to afford cheap labour and push the working class against eachother. All while Google, Meta, Microsoft and all of those clowns sell our active location Data collected from our phnes to Saudis, Russia and other extremely wealthy families so they could see businesses with less footfall during COVID, allowing them to bankrupt the global economy by shorting those companies through options. Netting them billions in profit and bankrupting businesses causing further economic downturn, in conjunction with the hostile takeover of the taxi cab and food delivery businesses. Further damaging restaurants and creating more unemployment, leading to fewer entry level jobs, normalising isolation and creating an atmosphere of distrust between people. Allowing for the further radicalisation of now unemployed young men by circulating millions of misleading, and sometimes, totally fake stories about immigrants. People that they brought here in the first place. All in order to push the world into a global conflict, buy up Earth and install themselves as the rulers of the ashes at the cost of billions of peoples lives.

[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 1 points 22 minutes ago

This reads like a total conspiracy theory. I hate that it all rings true.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 95 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Advertising is pollution

All advertising is a psyop

All advertisers are eco terrorists and gaslighters.

They are enemies of normal people.

They have forgone their humanity and our planet and our own well being.

They should not exist.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Advertising doesn't have to exist.

Like, we could just pass laws restricting or outright banning certain kinds.

I think people just forget that we can tell corporations they can't do whatever the fuck they want.

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[–] Metostopholes@midwest.social 53 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Advertising is the blistering puss of an underlying Capitalist stage four cancer that has broken the surface of the body.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's one of the necessary tools for achieving ever growing profits.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 minutes ago

Run away, uncontrollable, unregulated and unlimited growth is known as one thing .... Cancer

and it usually eventually kills the host

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 35 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children)

What’s distressing is the way they’ve been accepted. Ads are baked into many experiences, particularly online. Is this post an ad? Is the recommendation thread? The quiet suggestion that there has to be a solution to some problem? It’s impossible to say.

Hailcorporate used to be active, but now it’s a ghost town where specters whisper to one another, depressed and sardonic. That’s why I love lemmy. Aside from the sticker and knitting scammers, we’re nearly clear of ads. If you’re a human reading this, I very probably appreciate you!

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

knitting scammers

Wait... what?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Just classic spam

“wow, such a pretty ____. where can I buy it?”

“Here’s a link to my store”

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I think he's referring to kitaboga.

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