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I though this was the "Mildly terrifying" forum for a sec.
I will never ever ever be impressed by this shit. All I see is a very stupid person taking an unnecessary risk for clout.
There's a rope. He's not free-soloing.
Or is it just satisfying to put down other people's accomplishments from our keyboards?
I see no rope.
EDIT: More pixels version below reveals the rope.
Still, I hope you can see why folks thought this person was being wreckless from the OP photo.
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Rope and anchor much easier to see here.
I'm actually glad for that. I thought he was free climbing and it made me nervous.
He is free climbing. He’s not using things like a ladder to climb.
He’s not free soloing, which is done without a rope.
There’s also rope soloing where you use a rope but you don’t have a belayer and have to catch yourself on falls.
I think the only climber that did it free solo is Alex Honnold. He took a less deadly route I believe. The documentation is fear inducing though.
As a long time climber, watching that documentary is really gripping/terrifying. The bit at the end when he says what it was like walking over the top; no one noticing what he had done, because he didn't have ropes and a harness etc...wow.
I think I saw that one, it ends with him being like, "well, I should go practice climbing more!" and the other climbers just look at each other
I'm so pleased to discover he's smart
"smart" being a relative term here...
Yeah. Rope and anchor mean that falling isn't guaranteed death. I still wish he'd have a helmet, though.
Yeah, my thoughts go more towards a slip and fall and smashing into the side of the mountain rather than a slip and fall to the bottom.
I trust the rope and anchors to keep his body in the air.
He apparently trusts his body to do the rest.
Usually climbers who do lead climbing have a lot of experience indoors and on safer routes before moving onto ones like "El Capitan", so their reflexes are properly trained.
Also a lot of the impact is absorbed by the belayer and by your feet. The way your center of mass is situated and the fact that you're almost always facing the wall helps guide you feet first. There is a limited distance between the points where you clip in, so the distance isn't too big.
The only injury I ever got while lead roping* is a strained finger, so its not as dangerous as it seems If you have proper training and user the proper equipment.
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On less than vertical terrain like this, you don't smash into the wall so much as skid down it. On easier routes, this can be more dangerous, since there can be more ledges to hit. But on this route, there are very few features on the wall at all, so the danger is small. Also, with pro so close, total fall distance would be minimal, further decreasing the odds of hitting something.
On steeper terrain, falls are even safer - assuming you are given a proper belay. With a good belay, you simply fall into empty space with nothing at all to hit. But with an inexperienced and nervous belayer, they might take in slack when you are falling, which is bad, since it turns the rope into a pendulum, resulting in you "spiking" the wall with significant force. Another danger is getting your foot tangled up in front of the lead line, causing the rope to flip you upside down when it comes taught, which has a significant chance of putting your head where you don't want it to be.
Adam Ondra has been climbing since he was a kid and has likely taken many thousands of lead falls over the years. His belayer is someone with lots of experience who he knows and trusts. If he thinks the helmet is unnecessary, I'm inclined to trust him to make his own judgements about safety.
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Yeah, one of the best climbers in the world is not 'smart' when climbing with the proper security setup.
one of the "best climbers" just means "hasn't yet had a catastrophe". even 'with precautions' one mistake and it'd hurt like hell getting smacked and scraped against the front of that rock face, while flailing and trying to control the situation, recover...
its kinda like jumping out of a plane with a parachute. yeah sure 'precautions' but you're still deciding 'yes I should leave a perfectly capable vehicle to plunge towards the earth with comparatively minimal control over the situation'. and in both situations, your safety gear isn't guaranteed...
so yes, very "smart" indeed
parachuting is a good comparison as both these activities have a lower accident ratio than driving a car, so it is as smart as driving to work
also at his skill level falling from even this position is not going to result in bruises or scrapes, even people I climb with regularly fall from similar positions and just go back to climbing
Every single manner of objectively rating or quantifying intelligence has disappointed me
Thank Jebus he has a rope. Original picture made me feel bad and nervous.
Ah, thank you
But still 😵💫
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This is a lot less impressive when you rotate the image to the right.
"Why are we walking like this?"
Rotated to the right, it resembles me on Saturday morning.
I dunno, that background tho. Becomes something out of scifi.
Rope or not this is terrifying! It's a no from me
Fyi Adam is free climbing here but not free soloing; there's a big difference. The rope in this photo has either been edited out or is hard to see. Free climbing means climbing without aid, like ladders or ascenders attached to the rope. If youve climed at your local gym, you have free climed.
Edit: it's just hard to see but it's there. It's yellow and coming down beneath him.
Yeah what we see here is called "trad climbing" and specifically it seems like he's lead climbing here (first one up and putting in the rope as he goes along).
Adam is a fucking beast btw for those that don't know him he's one of the best in the world.
Nah; it's actually sport climbing, not trad. You can see in the higher definition photo that he's got a quick draw attached to a bolt below him. Trad (traditional) climbing means climbing without prebolted routes where you place pro(tection) as you climb, like cams, nuts and hexes to name a few. If he were climbing trad, you would see a bunch of pro hanging off his belt because he'd need to place it as he climbs. Also pretty sure there's not even enough going on on the dawn wall to climb trad which is why it's generally looked down upon to bolt a wall if pro can be placed. Trad climbing the same wall would be much harder than sport climbing the same wall because placing pro is so more more involved than placing a quickdraw. Also you have to carry it up. Also if you place pro incorrectly and you fall you can die. Sport climbing in practice is much safer.
To clarify further, the quickdraws are already placed for him. This is likely because the dawn wall is just that hard that you really don't have a chance if you have to spend the energy placing quickdraws as you climb.
Also pretty sure there’s not even enough going on on the dawn wall to climb trad which is why it’s generally looked down upon to bolt a wall if pro can be placed. Trad climbing the same wall would be much harder than sport climbing the same wall
IIRC, Tommy tried to keep the route in as good of style as possible by only bolting where there was no possible pro, and there are several pitches on the route which are protected only by beaks and brassies.
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Why?
Accomplishing difficult challenges & goals feels rewarding, pretty sure it's mostly dopamine and some adrenaline
A what point does it change from unique hobby to death wish?
It's hard to see from the shrunken picture, but he has a rope to catch him if he falls. The likelihood of an injury is very low.
https://brainasap.com/adrenaline-addiction-rock-climbers-thrill-seeking-behavior/
I'm all for letting people have the hobbies they want, but adrenaline junkies are literally wired differently. Kind of weird that they get put on a pedestal for being the "right" kind of neurodivergent.
I don't think any of the climbers I know would call it an adrenaline sport. It's slow, considered, thoughtful. It certainly gets a high sometimes, pun intended, but it's much more akin to a runners high or the elation of finishing a difficult task well.
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A what point does it change from unique hobby to death wish?
100% when you remove the safety gear.
The mountain, you see, is in nature; and Nature doesn't give a fuck about your inability to fly once you pop off that flake.
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I watched a video about a person with a rare condition that makes him not have a fear response and now, everytime I see people doing stupid shit like this, I think "bet it's not so fucking rare"
Don't be do quick to judge: He's secured by a rope that passes through a series of bolts that are drilled into solid granite. You could lift a car with the gear he's using to secure himself.
You're less in control of your fate when passing someone on the highway than he is here. The only way he dies in this situation is first slipping off (first layer of protection is your hands and feet), and then having several layers of ridiculously redundant protection fail.
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