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I'd like something more extended and literally episodic the way the word looks?

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DoYouNot@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (8 children)

They found the smartest person in the world and listened to them to fix their problems... Not at all accurate.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Once zoomers can vote and Mr Beast gets elected, things will change.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Over half of Zoomers can already vote. Gen Z is roughly 1997-2012.

Unfortunately the younger they are the more likely they are to be conservative it seems. More poisoned by the algorithms.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

we're in the "what if they didn't" timeline....

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We’re only 20 years after Joe got frozen and he hasn’t been thawed yet. We still have 480 years before things get that bad.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure we're speed running that part.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They also tried to publicly execute him.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

You make a convincing argument.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

We're in the time he was frozen. We have 40 years or so before that part happens.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The historical precedent is the rise of Nazi Germany during the 1920s and 1930s. You should now be somewhere in the early 1930s.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Canada and Greenland are Poland.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

or Poland and Austria

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To get spoilers, watch Downfall.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Not a good example, since that shows the happy ending where powerful countries are finally finishing off the fascist regime after years of war and millions of lives lost. That is the amount of effort and determination it took to rid Germany of its fascists.

No such prospects for the American fascist regime. On the contrary the most powerful countries in the world will happily support it, because it undermines Western dominance.

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

fascist top-down government that rules without checks and balances stripping away civil rights through exploitation of the vulnerable using fear-of-the-other propaganda and outright lies to further centralize its abusive, selfish control over society while a small dedicated decentralized band of civil rights activists fight the expanding power and influence of the dark side.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, dude even gets disappeared just for being in the wrong street at the wrong time.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Nah that dude was very mexican. Should have tried to not do that.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Just started watching that show recently and it's so amazing I'm surprised Disney allowed it to be made. The parallels to the current state of society are so apparent. In one of the episodes of Season 2 a character says "Why can't they just leave us alone" and that resonated with me so much

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

The Man in the High Castle.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

1984 by George Orwell

Not TV (at least not that I am aware of), but it was the first thing to come to my mind. They made a movie if you prefer but, as always, you'll get more from the book.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 24 points 1 month ago

It’s a novel, but “It Can’t Happen Here” follows a scenario where a populist becomes President and removes all opposition.

[–] CaptainAmeristan@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Plot Against America by Philip Roth. Great book and a TV miniseries. An alternative history that has Lindbergh winning the presidency in the 30s and the US government enacting fascism domestically. The book does a great job of portraying the chaos that ensues. The series is also very good.

The Plot...

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

VEEP

Seriously. “Today the secretary of defense with a drinking problem reveals military secrets to a reporter due to a texting error.”

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Elysium; the Matt Damon movie where the rich live on a space station and leave the rest of us to rot.

I'm not saying it's what's going on right this moment, but it's the end-goal of everything that Musk, Bezos, etc... are doing.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 month ago

The Prequel to Schindler's List

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There’s a satirical (well, don’t know how long it will be considered that) movie about it… it’s called Idiocracy

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to think this movie was funny but now it's just kind of painful because it's largely true.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except Camacho was a caring president, in his own way.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

He is the most unrealistic part of the film, he had a problem, found the most qualified person to fix it, listened to them (eventually), and then didnt take credit for it.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would much rather have Camacho as president than Cheeto Benito.

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[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a great movie, but the eugenics theme is bullshit. The causes of modern decline have nothing to do with the half-baked idea that idiots will overrun the world through breeding.

Idiots aren't born in increasing waves, they're made by chronically underfunding education and flooding the world with propaganda and manipulative social media algorithms.

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[–] Starayo@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The bobiverse series (about a guy who is hit by a car right after signing up for a cryogenics thing and then wakes in the future to find out he's basically been legislated to have no rights and is stuck into a self-replicating drone for space exploration, it's pretty good) kind of starts off setting the backstory like it. The christofascism just started a bit later.

Obviously it's not one to one but given Trump's performative Christianity it was all I could think about around the failed coup on Jan 6.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Ever heard of the rise of Nazism in Germany?

[–] piefood@feddit.online 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Behind the Insurrectionists

A lot of what he talks about prior to previous insurrections are pretty similar to what's happening now.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The Ultra podcast has two seasons and goes in-depth into previous attempts by fascists at taking over the US government.

Sitting members of Congress aiding and abetting a plot to overthrow the government. Insurrectionists criminally charged with plotting to end American democracy for good. Justice Department prosecutors under crushing political pressure. Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra is the all-but-forgotten true story of good, old-fashioned American extremism getting supercharged by proximity to power.

When extremist elected officials get caught plotting against America with the violent ultra right, this is the story of the lengths they will go to… to cover their tracks.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago

The wave of fascism going throughput Europe in the 19th and 20th century of course.

But the state of the American people is also portrayed well in The Hunger Games (books and movies).

[–] Rlandi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Twilight Zone (2019), "The Wunderkind"

Synopsis: A down-on-his-luck campaign manager (John Cho) is determined to get a kid (Jacob Tremblay) elected as the next President of the United States.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I find the last days of the Qing dynasty China to be somewhat analogous. Institutional rot, rampant corruption, a complete failure to adapt to crises and open hostility to anyone proposing workable solutions or trying to learn from foreign examples. Basically the two voices in government were, "Learn how guns work while completely refusing to understand the scientific principles that allowed them to be developed" and "Learn absolutely nothing." The "lesser evil" was woefully inadequate, and once the government finally collapsed, both factions that emerged (communists and nationalist) were far more influenced by Western ideas than even the most radical in the Qing government were.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Literally the first novel ever written "Sinuhe" speaks of a very similar crisis in ancient Egypt.

[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Take a serious look at the collapse of the Soviet Union, the gutting of the Commonwealth, and the rise of Russia under Yeltsin, then Putin. I'm not sure of any fictionalized works that examine this in any detail, but the aftermath and the new reality is well-described in Nothing is True and Everything is Possible by Peter Pomerantsev. Link is a 10 year old review in the Guardian.

The falls of other empires would also be instructive. There is an excellent podcast/YouTube channel, the Fall of Civilizations(YouTube Link)(Spotify Link). In listening, I found several parallels to the first Trump presidency. I haven't listened in years.

A paper-thin skinned hegemon leads a dying empire against his staunch allies. I fed this prompt to ChatGPT and it handed me back Dune by Frank Herbert and Foundation by Isaac Asimov.

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

Player Piano by Vonnegut

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Babylon Berlin

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any sci-fi by Ray Bradbury, Aldous Huxley Phillip K.Dick, some by Robert Heinlein iirc.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The Great Dictator

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