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Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (€50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @nutomic@lemmy.ml below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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edit, as this was frequently brought up:

Will donations to Lemmy development go towards the operation of lemmy.ml?

It depends on the donation method used and is limited to around 2% of the minimum overall donation goal. The vast majority of donations is exclusively used for developer salaries.

lemmy.ml hosting is only financed by donations via Opencollective. All other donations go exclusively to developer salaries.

[source]

For donations via Open Collective, yes, a tiny fraction of donations towards Lemmy development will go towards the operation of lemmy.ml. The reasons for this include that lemmy.ml is used for testing new releases and also that it's not worth maintaining a separate donation account for the instance. Additionally, it should be noted that the money going towards lemmy.ml hosting is just a tiny fraction of the funds that are being asked for. Hosting lemmy.ml costs around €100/month, which is only 2% of the stated minimum donation goal.

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Nah.

ml can shit itself and rot. So can the rest of Lemmy if that's not a price that's worth being paid.

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago)

The comments are a full microcosm showcasing why Lemmy will stay underground and it will never overtake reddit

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Is it possible donate to Lemmy development without contributing to Lemmy.ml?

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub -1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago) (1 children)

Lotta no's based on people who can't stand being in a room with other people just because of different political beliefs. I don't follow .ml's philosophy, and I don't care. Take em, leave em. Whatever.

They aren't why I'm not on Reddit.

Remember why you're here. If you can't handle discourse with people who see the world differently then go back to Mastodon and save us your intolerance. Discourse is the lifeblood of a site like this, different opinions are part of being human. Grow up.

but t-they support such and such genocide!!

Then protest them louder. Don't bring the rest of us down over it, not that it isn't mostly sensationalist to begin with.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

Remember why you’re here. If you can’t handle discourse with people who see the world differently then go back to Mastodon and save us your intolerance

You're asking people to "tolerate" support of human rights abuse by authoritarian governments like China and Russia...

Lots of people have problems with authoritarianism, especially now.

That's not even getting into those two individuals personal views on things like LGBTQ. Which shouldn't be surprising when given the stances on LGBTQ by the authoritarian governments they idolize.

And before anyone says "they don't talk about that stuff, look at their profile!"....

Even if it wasn't obvious they have alts already, here's one of them admitting it:

https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005/18404597

Acting like directly giving money to them somehow doesn't support them is ludacris.

If their political stances truly don't matter to you. Are you ok buying a Tesla still because it's an EV?

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago
[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

These money will go to two people who created and actively maintain and promote an instance pretending the brutal murder of Ukranians is not happening but also necessary, and deleting and banning contrary opinions.

No.

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (10 children)

Comments are a hilarious minefield and a painful reminder of exactly how online leftists can never get shit done. We want FOSS federated social media platforms to escape the tech giants that would happily facilitate a fascist wave if it meant they can serve more targeted ads. But when that platform actually exists in a totally functional and apolitical way, we don't want to support its development because the people willing to work full time on the project for poverty wages have bad political opinions. It's so bad that we'd rather support Steve Huffman's bot farm which is 1,000 times as politically influential as Lemmy will ever be at this rate.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Trying to piece things together it sounds like the beef is with lemmy.ml maintainers and not Lemmy in general. This is what federation's all about: You like the product but don't like how it's being used, so you switch to using instances that are used the way you like and support those instances in kind, all while blocking and/or criticizing the instances you don't like without risking having your access revoked.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

The problem is, Lemmy developers are lemmy.ml maintainers. You can't have one without the other.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, but the issue is that the lemmy.ml maintainers are the Lemmy developers. The people who created the software, and continue maintaining it, are the same people who created the instance.

It's the well-known question of if you can, or should, separate the art from the artist. By funding, in its current state, the development of Lemmy, you're supporting the people running an instance you disagree with. Unless you're willing to take up the work to fork and continue development yourself, you can't detach them, you either support both or none.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy Apolitical?

LMAO 🀣

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The platform itself is apolitical. It can be forked and used for any purpose by other creators. Any instance of a different political persuasion can be spun up and maintained separately, as many defederated instances have. This is a result of the project the 2 devs are paid to produce.

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[–] yogurt@lemm.ee 21 points 19 hours ago

If half the people circlejerking in here were serious they could pay a liberal developer to contribute instead, but somehow I doubt that's happening.

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