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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They could not possibly care less. They have awesome jobs, gold standard publicly funded healthcare, access to insider trading information, and they’re about to get a sweet tax cut. If they get fired, they’ll just turn coat and become lobbyists.

The rot has reached the core, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Elitism is a great label for people you don't want to work with. This is gonna be great.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

That's what happens when the country is being turned into a fascist state and people being sent to camps, while the majority of them are mumbling about midterms and trying not to rock the boat.

At this point they are complicit in the downfall of America. Although I'm sure they'll be happy when they retire somewhere else in the world with a big bank account.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

US fealty to other countries over American interests every time. Israel, China, EU states, it doesn't matter. If it's good for the corporate hegemon - and because money is speech now - you get a predictable result. We're living through corporate oligarchy. One of the biggest corporations (by value) in the history of the world has its CEO siting in the Whitehouse directing our government functions. He's in charge of firing federal employees. It's clear as day, corporations run our government. Not reven a recent phenomena - lobbyist have been doing it forever with increasing success since Regan / 80s era. We're fucked, it's all downhill from here. The fall of the American empire is probably closer than we all think.

The Democrats are part of that machine. With few exceptions they are willing participants in the process.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Jeffries is trying really hard not to understand how bad he is. In the article he's quoted as saying something like it's because of Trump's policies that people are getting turned off. How intentionally oblivious is that. Everyone knows that it's hard to stop Trump when you're in the minority, everyone sympathizes with that. But everyone also knows you have a duty to try really hard, and you didn't try at all, and that's your fault. It's time for you to retire.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

People also remember how, when the Democrats were the majority party, the Republican minority could somehow obstruct, delay and water down anything they proposed that even approached being progressive policy that would help large numbers of working class people, yet the Dems have somehow forgotten all those tactics that were used against them to great success now that they find themselves the minority party.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 146 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Good, give away two supreme Court seats, neglect to put protections into law and abdicate congressional authority to the executive is solidly on their shoulders. The Republicans have been very public with their goals for decades and the Democrats still insisted they could negotiate.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 64 points 20 hours ago

This is why you don’t negotiate with terrorists.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 28 points 20 hours ago (15 children)

We're going to vote for them again in the next election in the name of "harm reduction" or "being realistic" and they're going to keep doing the same feckless shit over and over again.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’m in a safe blue state. I’m seriously considering leaving parts of my federal ballot blank or doing a write-in if people outside of the old guard don’t win the primaries.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

i usually do this since democrats are usually successful in getting anyone besides the republicans and themselves off the ballot.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

That football is creepy. Is that Pigpens skin..?!

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

trump is going to fuck it up again enough to make him lose the next election and there'll be a democrat in charge for a while who will keep doing most of the same things as trump.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You think we're still gonna have elections by then?

Anyway, yes, harm reduction and dragging the overton window left is preferable . A company that builds crematoriums was an exhibitor at the Board Security Expo earlier this month.

But even more preferably, these old farts need to get primaried out.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

democrats don't move the Overton window left.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yes and? I've shared this exact meme.

(Ideally)Right now, we have time to primary the old guard out, but if it came down to voting for an asshole and voting for a Nazi, I'll vote for the asshole, because abstaining in protest will only help the Nazi get in.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

you shared a meme that says democrats don't allow the american overton window to move left and your previous comment suggests that voting democrat moves the same overton window to the left; there seems to be a conflict in the point you're trying to make.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

There is a time and place for when to do activism voting and when the the stakes are too high, you have to set aside your pride. If voters could keep the republicans out, we could start replacing the democrats with real progressives. Right not, democrats represent the lesser of two evils and when the greater evil wants to create concentration camps, it's immoral not to vote for the lesser.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

that lesser evil is doing nothing to prevent concentration camps and democrats are working to ensure that progressives are shut out. giving the democrats your support is not only not achieving these goals, it's actively working against them; so a different strategy is needed.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Giving the democrats support right before the election was the only thing we could do. Right now, we have time to regroup and get new blood elected. We can do activism voting right now, but if you didn't vote for Harris just to keep Trump out, you need to confront the fact that what were seeing right now is partially your fault.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

what we're seeing right now is an imperialism boomerang and you're significantly more complicit if you continue to give your support to either party.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

I'm giving my support to the people who are challenging the status quo, not to people promoting inaction. Your plan only strengthens the imperialists.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago

The asshole is the servant of the Nazi. You only get the Nazi a bit later and all the more stronger. They are both parts of the same Oligarchy that ultimately wants the Nazi in power.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe in Order to get BETTER Polling they should Slide FURTHER Right? They MIGHT be able To Get Democrats BACK if they just go FURTHER Right!

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They just haven't reached out to moderates and Republicans hard enough!!!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Maybe if they support genocide even harder, do even less to hold wealthy criminals accountable, throw even more minorities under the bus, and get a few more Cheneys on board, they will peel off exactly one republican vote.

Aw, who am I kidding? They would happily do that regardless of how few votes they got.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 54 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Dealing with an emergency and all they have is old men who don’t have what it takes to take on the rabid GOP. Never understood why the US system is dominated by such old people.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Seats on committees and chairmanships are determined by seniority.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Only because that's the way the Democratic party decides it is. Republicans don't follow the same practice. These are informal rules agreed upon internally, not anything legally binding

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

One of the great “traditions” that’s been holding our government together like duct tape and bailing wire

[–] epyon22@programming.dev 19 points 20 hours ago

And to get seniority you need to stay in office and to stay in office you need money and to get stable money you need corporate money and there's always something they want in return.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 20 hours ago

They should just gate the whole American leadership and treat it like a giant old age home at this point

Tell them all that they've been sworn in for a lifetime and just pump them all with anti psychotic drugs, pretend that they are actually doing things and having meetings and just contain them all for the rest of their lives.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, because they suck as Democrats. They aren't even good Republicans. They are just greedy, unappealing people who don't have a conscience when they have to do their job of representing their constituents.

Democratic leadership also sucks so they would rather keep their like-minded predators than have anyone with empathy and personality gain a leadership role.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The poll surveyed 1,006 adults across the U.S. and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, at the 95 percent confidence level.

Not a very good poll, IMO. However:

Of fucking course their polling is low. They've sat with their thumbs up their ass this entire presidency. That's after running a terrible presidential campaign, that came on the coattails of another terrible presidential campaign, that came on the coattails of a terrible presidency.

My surprise level: 0%

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Thats a perfectly reasonable sample size and margin of error. The margin of error for a given confidence level and standard deviation is proportional to 1/sqrt(n) so in order to get the margin of error down from 4% points to 2% they would need to quadruple the number of people polled. However this is worthless if you cannot attribute for systematic errors with a better precision.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 18 points 20 hours ago

Sucks to suck, you bunch of grifters.

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