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Good, give away two supreme Court seats, neglect to put protections into law and abdicate congressional authority to the executive is solidly on their shoulders. The Republicans have been very public with their goals for decades and the Democrats still insisted they could negotiate.
This is why you don’t negotiate with terrorists.
We're going to vote for them again in the next election in the name of "harm reduction" or "being realistic" and they're going to keep doing the same feckless shit over and over again.
I’m in a safe blue state. I’m seriously considering leaving parts of my federal ballot blank or doing a write-in if people outside of the old guard don’t win the primaries.
i usually do this since democrats are usually successful in getting anyone besides the republicans and themselves off the ballot.
That football is creepy. Is that Pigpens skin..?!
You think we're still gonna have elections by then?
Anyway, yes, harm reduction and dragging the overton window left is preferable . A company that builds crematoriums was an exhibitor at the Board Security Expo earlier this month.
But even more preferably, these old farts need to get primaried out.
democrats don't move the Overton window left.
Voters can. Or well, could have. Instead we let the republicans control the window to the point we'll probably not have elections again.
Candidates have no responsibility to appeal to the voters. Got it. That's not what democracy looks like.
Yes and? I've shared this exact meme.
(Ideally)Right now, we have time to primary the old guard out, but if it came down to voting for an asshole and voting for a Nazi, I'll vote for the asshole, because abstaining in protest will only help the Nazi get in.
you shared a meme that says democrats don't allow the american overton window to move left and your previous comment suggests that voting democrat moves the same overton window to the left; there seems to be a conflict in the point you're trying to make.
There is a time and place for when to do activism voting and when the the stakes are too high, you have to set aside your pride. If voters could keep the republicans out, we could start replacing the democrats with real progressives. Right not, democrats represent the lesser of two evils and when the greater evil wants to create concentration camps, it's immoral not to vote for the lesser.
that lesser evil is doing nothing to prevent concentration camps and democrats are working to ensure that progressives are shut out. giving the democrats your support is not only not achieving these goals, it's actively working against them; so a different strategy is needed.
Giving the democrats support right before the election was the only thing we could do. Right now, we have time to regroup and get new blood elected. We can do activism voting right now, but if you didn't vote for Harris just to keep Trump out, you need to confront the fact that what were seeing right now is partially your fault.
what we're seeing right now is an imperialism boomerang and you're significantly more complicit if you continue to give your support to either party.
I'm giving my support to the people who are challenging the status quo, not to people promoting inaction. Your plan only strengthens the imperialists.
The asshole is the servant of the Nazi. You only get the Nazi a bit later and all the more stronger. They are both parts of the same Oligarchy that ultimately wants the Nazi in power.
No, we aren’t actually
trump is going to fuck it up again enough to make him lose the next election and there'll be a democrat in charge for a while who will keep doing most of the same things as trump.
Letting the Republicans win went so fucking well this year.
What's that about not learning anything?
most democrats are unaware that they lost because their fellow democrats intentionally didn't vote and are also unaware that there were so many that there weren't enough 3rd party voters make up the difference; so it's pretty clear which politcal group isn't learning anything.
So let's just throw away our votes to a third party? What do you propose instead of voting for the less bad option? What is something you or I can actually do?
Run for office and/or get involved in your local government.
Not something my schedule allows. That's the point. If you can do it, more power to you. "Be a politician yourself" doesn't always align with the goal of supporting a family.
Juggling family responsibilities is tough. There’s still a lot you can do though. Talk to your friends, family, and neighbors. Let them know your concerns and encourage them to voice their opinions with others as well. Attend local township meetings and town halls. Even just staying informed can make a difference.
I agree with all of that.
But when it's time to vote, what can you do that is better than voting for Democrats?
I'm not saying "don't do other stuff and just vote." But it feels like a lot of people ARE saying "don't vote; just do other stuff."
As much as it sucks, we're all better off voting for Democrats than not voting or voting conservative or third party.
no one knows has all the answers for what the right way forward is, but we definitely know what the wrong ways are because we keep doing them over and over again to "reduce harm" and here we are w fascists in charge and more in the future.
the only way to fix it is to get involved and even bernie & aoc say so; that doesn't mean you stop supporting a family, it means you have to figure out what you can do to help and recognizing what doesn't work so you don't keep making things worse, like voting for the "less bad option" each time.
So are you not going to vote next time?
Vote for a conservative?
Write in a wasted vote?
Be realistic. How many choices do we have?
Next time we're standing in the voting booth, what is a better option than voting for the Democrats? I don't like them either. But right then. Right there. WTF else are we really supposed to do?
If you can do things that make a difference aside from voting, by all means do that. But advocating for anything other than voting for Democrats when it's time to vote is just irrational. Do the best you can in each moment - even when the thing you're doing isn't enjoyable.
the only irrational thing is repeating the same actions that brought us here.
Who is expecting different results when they vote? I expect the same thing each time - Democrats doing less harm than Republicans.
People need to be realistic about the options in front of them in that moment. Do things outside of voting when you can, but on voting day the right thing to do isn't complicated.
People still need to show up and vote, and they need to choose the least bad option even if it's not an option they actually like. Not doing so is irrational behavior.