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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Republicans and some democrats

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Russia

Ms-13 hasn’t made it to the White House

Russia has

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 hour ago

Sad but true

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

The death toll from Israel supporting Americans exponentially dwarfs the number of Americans harmed by MS-13.

[–] mcamp@lemmy.aicampground.com 7 points 4 hours ago

I'm going to go with option C, the Trump regime.. We need to be more worried about them and how they ate dismantling our democracy.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on context. If the context is "planning a holiday in El Salvador", maybe MS-13 is relevant. Beyond being worried about impact on others' lives, MS-13 is largely irrelevant to Americans and most people that I've encountered never heard of them before 2016.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Most people who don't live in a border state, that is. If you live in Cali, Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas, you've heard of MS-13. That said, I consider them a non-threat to anyone who isn't a rival gang member. They won't fuck with you if you don't fuck with them.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you're getting at. That article says in multiple places, and even implies it with the scare quotes in the title, that they didn't find a bunch of gang members in that complex. So what exactly are you trying to say?

Here's a few quotes from that article:

Aurora Police Department Interim Chief Heather Morris said in a statement on Friday that "gang members have not taken over" the complex.

"I'm not saying that there aren't gang members that don't live in this community," Morris said. "But what we're learning out here is that gang members have not taken over this complex."

...

Morris stated that the local authorities have "really made an effort" in recent days to ask specific questions about gang activity in the area and at the complex.

"Making sure that people aren't paying rent to gang leaders or gang members," she said.

According to Morris, the residents they've spoken with have assured them that this isn't happening, and she believes they are being honest.

"We're standing out here, and I can tell you that gang members have not taken over this complex."

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

...sure. Then try this one.

"While the city continues to dispute the claims of a gang takeover, Jurinsky has released a series of photos, videos and email exchanges she says prove the problem is worse than city officials have let on."

...and you guys also forgot to mention the border state of New York.

This border state problem is a national problem.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Just curious but have you looked into that story on the Aurora apartment complex past the reactionary headlines you're cherry picking? It's way more nuanced and has little to do with gangs. I kind of find it funny that you decided to backtrack with a different article because you didn't even read the first one you posted.

As for some nypost gibberish, I don't care to read it. It's obvious you're a reactionary and have an agenda. The "immigrant problem" is a racist nationalistic bullhorn, and I suspect you fall into that crowd. Unless of course you support returning the US to the people that aren't immigrant ancestors? Perhaps we could find some common ground there.

I don't see a MS-13 hand shoved firmly up Trump's ass, so....

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump, GOP, MAGA > Russia > China > MS-13

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
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[–] bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Idk anything about ms 13 so I can't try to assess them as a threat. But I have a hard time imagining a gang or terror group coming close to russia in terms of threat to Americans

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia, biggest mafia in the world, and also funds White supremecist/right wing groups all over the worlds.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Brexit, people think. Russia is dangerous to the whole of the world.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

yup, also funds fox(works closely with MURDOCH), which russia today version in the US.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 day ago

Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia

[–] Eggscellent@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago

I guess it depends on how many nuclear weapons MS-13 has.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the "homegrown" criminal gang.

Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost

Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah but taking out Putin won't help as much now.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] sith@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Russia. MS-13 is nothing in comparison. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Russia supports MS-13 as part of their hybrid warfare. That's how they work.

Understand that Russia has largely been able to put US to its knees through hybrid methods that utilize and enhance the negative effects of american arrogance, neoliberal dogmatism and the war on drugs. Trump is the final stage before the empire comes down. It's probably too late to turn the ship around by now. China + EU is already the facto world leaders and the US is doing everything to destroy itself and there is no real political and economical self-awareness among people with power.

The US should have started to decrease inequality, stop the war on drugs and enforced (sane) tariffs and migration policies 15 years ago. The EU has the same problems, but there isn't the same level of inequality and political extremism and fundamentalism, which makes me believe that the EU will survive as a western democracy and relevant world player, but the US will not.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well my retirement isn't down because of ms-13

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don't fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

Then Russia. Thats where the ACTUAL voter interference comes from.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • international: Russia (and their puppet, Trump)
  • domestic: we have enough racist, fascist domestic terrorists (ex. Proud Boys, Patriot Front, etc., etc.) that pose far more of a threat to the US than MS-13
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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (10 children)

That's a joke right? MS-13 isn't trying to invade Ukraine.

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