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[–] SirBucksworth@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you think of DD/HH/YYYY/Min/MM/Sec?

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago

Could be improved by swapping hours and minutes. They are more important after all.

Also that way the time isn't in order anymore.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Up until the comment thread I'd never heard an American say that at all.

And there's no proof the shithead in the comments is American. Definitely a troll though.

In any case this is easy to explain since the 4th of July was a holiday made by British citizens.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 115 points 1 week ago (11 children)

As someone from a yyyy-mm-dd country, you're all wrong /hj

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yyyy-mm-dd is specified by ISO 8601, so there's really no argument it isn't the objectively correct format.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I always use yyyy.mm.dd as my date format whenever I sign and date documents. I also use a pictograph instead of initials. Someone tried to forge a contract edit to try and get out of paying but used the mm/dd/yy format. The moment my lawyer showed this to their lawyer, they settled immediately for the original amount, legal fees, and late payment penalties. Dumbasses.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Both are wrong. The correct way to write the date is YYYY-MM-DD. This is the only way to sort dates linearly in a list. ISO 8601.

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

In Arabic we use DD/MM/YYYY but it actually gets written as YYYY/MM/DD since Arabic is written and read from right to left. When the year is dropped the confusing part is not what format is used here but rather does this website/software support RTL or is it just regular unformatted ASCII.

Edit: it's still not ISO 8601 and it doesn't solve the sorting issue

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Should work if you have an RTL invert character before, right? (Not that you could name files with the slashes.)

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

RTL invert characters are just for rendering purposes it doesn't help with sorting also in older systems sometimes it was not supported.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But if you type it as "[RTL invert]yyyy/mm/dd" it is automatically sorted correctly in ltr parsing systems but still displayed correctly (assuming it is supported which it seems to be on most devices nowadays).

[–] Osan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You want it displayed as "yyyy/mm/dd" so it's actually "[RTL]dd/mm/yyyy"

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ah, I read the original comment backwards.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm so glad you think we are all computers

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

Our lives involve computers to a huge degree.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

It's frustrating that people are so bad at dates that ISO8601 lives rent-free in my head because I constantly have to tell people ;)

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 46 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Why is the format not:

2025/4/12

Biggest time frame to smallest time frame (year, month, then day)?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

ISO Tanf rise up.

Also 2025/04/12

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 1 points 5 days ago

Because humans are not computers. That scheme makes sense when you are filling out things that are not nearby in time. For example, filling in your birth date on tax forms.

Otherwise, humans don't generally need the context of the year. The same is true of the month only if the context is clear (I'll see you on the 20th implies the very next 20th). A year is much longer and most things are not planned out that far in advance. If they are, they often dont have precise dates in which case a month or even a quarter is more appropriate.

Time is also one of those things where humans are so used to contextual processing that representing the full date adds overhead. 2025/4/20, 4/20/2025, 20/4/2025 all take more processing than "the 20th" or "next Sunday".

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As a computer scientist, I've been doing this everywhere for over 10 years already. Be the change you want to see in the world.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Issues with unix paths. I prefer 2025-04-12.

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[–] chicagohuman@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

ISO8601 FTW!

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Coldest take: if any common date format is difficult for you, you're a little bit ridiculous

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

MM/DD/YYYY genuinely causes issues, because it's very easily misread by the rest of the world, and vise versa for Americans.

I have been mislead more than once, because the MM and DD are both ≤ 12.

MM/DD/YYYY needs to die

Month Day YYYY is fine, because it's unambiguous when the month is spelled out.

YYYY.MM.DD, or similar, is the only way to sort dates properly anyway.

I don't actually disagree with anything you said, I was just being a bit cheeky

[–] RyanLiu@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's all fun and games until someone drops a 7/4 and you don't know which country they're from

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago

November 9 never forget.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What Americans are calling people idiots for saying (day) of (month)? We say it both ways all the time. 4th of July, July 4th... it's not a complicated thing.

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