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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 154 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is also why hunting vests are bright orange. Easy for humans to spot, and deer get confused by there being a fucking tiger loose in New England.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Apparently pink works as well, if a hunter wants a second color vest

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago

That works on the same principle, except the deer thinks you're a panther.

[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

I always wondered about that, thanks.

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Ok this makes complete sense now, thank you!

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 6 days ago

Meanwhile my colorblind ass:

Tigers are generally crepuscular which means they’re most active around dawn or dusk, when the sun is very low in the sky. Their orange fur does not stand out so well when everything looks orange under the golden light of dawn.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, evolution, for allowing me to see orange so I can get an head start and outrun a mother fucking tiger!

[–] jwt@programming.dev 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

outrun a mother fucking tiger

You only need to outrun your travelbuddy.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Especially if your travel buddy is your mother.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 28 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Wouldn't a mutation in the deer sight to see orange be vastly evolutionary beneficial?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Only in areas with tigers, and then it would only express itself enough if there were enough evolutionary pressure exclusively on that survival tactic.

As long as other causes of death happen to deer in tiger territories and as long as speed remains a good survival strategy, minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios like a tiger stalking them wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

There's also a whole host of additional brain power that needs to be dedicated to more complex colour blending and processing, and that may add enough delay to offset any potential gain in recognizing a threat.

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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 11 points 6 days ago

It could, but it might also lead to something harmful for the deer at the same time. I'm not sure if the gene affecting the deer's eyesight is known, but it could be a pleiotropic gene (a gene that influences multiple traits at once).

If that's the case, and the other effect is negative and somehow spreads through the population, it could become a future issue for the deer. Think about humansβ€”we lost the ability to produce our own vitamin C. Almost every other mammal can produce their own (except for hamsters). When this happened, it didn’t harm us right away, so it spread through the population. But over time, it led to issues that weren’t a problem before, like scurvy.

Same could happen to the deer.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 6 days ago

Presumably yes, but its still down to a roll of the dice whether a mutation like that happens in the first place, and whether the individuals who have that mutation live long enough to breed, and whether that mutation actually gets passed down, etc

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

It's been far more important, evolution wise, to be agile and quick enough to avoid predators. Like a security camera can only tell you how someone was murdered.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And then soon we'd have green tigers.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (8 children)

There are no green mammals because of some biology reason I can't remember.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah I think it was a balance patch, because mammals that could photosynthesize were too OP.

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[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Desperately need me a community just for tiger facts like this and pictures of tigers. Greatest of the Big Cats

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for subscribing to Big Cat Facts

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Feel free to open !bigcats or !tiger I'll be your first follower.

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish lol. I don't have enough time to manage a community though. if someone else made one though i'd follow it instantly

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago

I vaguely remember someone mentioning a community to give your community ideas to who may want to implement it... I forgot the name.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Do the tigers know they are orange?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do humans know tigers are green?

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Asking the real questions

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Actionschnils@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ist is possible to make the own pattern visible? Like with special Cameras and Light?

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, they too are dichromats

[–] Toes@ani.social 10 points 6 days ago

Almost like our eyes evolved to give danger its own colour.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This must be utterly terrifying for them.

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Oooh I just thought nature was fucking stupid

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Would not green be the obvious route then?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

AFAIK green is more expensive to produce. Plants use it since it's good at absorbing sunlight, but what's the advantage to a tiger, if their prey can't tell the difference?

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