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I didnt have much to begin with only lost about 12k, I have nothing anyway. My mother lost roughly 100k in her retirement fund from all this crashing. My grandmother even more. How much have you lost in Trump's Tantrum Tariffs game?

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

About 70k so far, but I haven’t sold, so they’re not really losses. I’ll wait for recovery. No reason to take the early L with selling.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everyone acts like theres going to be a recovery this time. When this is unlike anything we've ever been through.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 days ago

I’m counting on republicans to overwhelmingly lose the mid term elections. If they maintain their majority and no one is able to challenge the agenda, then I think we’ll truly be looking at long term hard times.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Actual numbers?

Approaching a half million.

That’s from two people’s combined lifetime efforts at saving for retirement. We max out our retirement contributions and live modestly, I have a mandatory retirement age by law, and we can only hope that the markets will return our savings by then.

For the record, it’s shitty that people’s retirements are tied to the stock market.

401(k) plans never meant to be a complete retirement plan. Where does that leave future retirees?

Nearly three-quarters of all 401(k) money is held in stocks, according to a Vanguard report from 2021.

I read somewhere and can’t find it anymore, but up to 40% of the stock market value is comprised of peoples’ retirement savings or plans.

So you can see how devastating this stock market decline could be if it gets worse, on top of all the issues with jobs it will cause.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 94 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I lost zero because the number going down doesn’t equal the value going down. You only lose if you panic sell.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)

You still lose time, and are now stuck in an unprofitable investment rather than a profitable one. So you are also losing all the value you would have gained had we stayed the course instead of doing this dumb shit. Thats called opportunity cost.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look up the stock market around March 2020. Huge dip then rebound to pretty much the same trajectory. As long as you left your stuff to sit, you're still doing fine. There's no reason to think the massive rebound would have still occurred without the dip.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

once the little people sell their assets for pennies, they will just bulk buy it at a bargain and reverse the shitty decisions that made it crash.

just legalized robbery-with-extra-steps.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hope no one sells, if anything they should buy more. Assuming, and that’s a big word here, they can afford to.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the fact its crashing so hard means quite a bunch of money was already pulled out.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Appreciated, I was more referring to the ordinary folk that wouldn’t have that level of influence. But I suppose that that’s passed.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nothing invested means nothing to lose! Never got to play the fucking game.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nothing because I haven't sold anything and aren't planning to either. I hold and keep buying more. Just like I did thru the previous dips.

[–] chrizzly@feddit.org 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Keep calm and hold, that is the way.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had a trust fund of stocks and my mum said she sold them whenever a crash happened.... Why.....

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, buying after the crash happens makes no sense. If you can somehow( for lack of a better phrase foresee )a crash happening, and then sell before the crash, then buy back in after the crash. That makes sense because then you’re selling high and buying low.

But buying after the crash makes no sense because now you’re already down. I feel for you on that one

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

All my loss has had nothing to do with the economy.

I've had basically everything I own in life thrown away. Twice. Once when I was 19 and got a job on a cruise ship; my parents sold my car and had my siblings move everything out of my room so my brother could take the room, and those two assholes just threw everything in the trash.

It happened again when I got married and my (now ex) wife got rid of everything of mine that I had before we met.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

$25k and climbing but thankfully that's pretty much all in my retirement and I'm not touching it for several more decades.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I decided to adult and buy a few stocks. So far I've lost six hundred dollars.

Yes that doesn't seem like a lot but I've never invested before and I'm not exactly rich.

Haven't checked my retirement because I've never expected to be able to retire in this country. I will work till I die. Yay, American dream! 🙁

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago

I haven't checked. It's a long-term investment anyway.

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago

I haven't sold, so none. I'm going to buy a bit more. Even if it goes down I can still get dividends and borrow against it rather than selling if i need

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I sold about a third of my shares in my retirement index fund into “cash” about a month ago. This was obviously coming and I figured I would try to time the market in this instance. I didn’t have the balls to do the whole thing but I stand to make a nice gain if I can buy back in on the way up.

The next few years will be a constant whip saw of crashes and “recoveries”, because the big money wins more when prices are volatile. They sell before you can. They buy before you can. It’s a dance they take advantage of, and we should try to as well.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I lost everything long before this, sadly. Didn't even have money to start rebuilding before the tariffs nonsense.

It all feels insurmountable. Like it was going to be hard to build it all back, but now, with the tariffs? Just feels pointless.

The number of times I cry because it took me until I was nearly forty to own a bed of my own, and to just be a few years past forty and back down to basically nothing and sleeping on a 15+ year old mattress that isn't even mine that hurts my back every night is too damn high.

I never had much, all told it was all worth maybe $2000, but it's all gone now. It all feels so petty but it was mine, the few things I had were mine, and I took good care of them. It feels like a joke that it could have all been replaced for so cheap yet I have had no options because of my cancer.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

You're supposed to rotate mattresses every 3-to-6 months to even out their wear. Alternatively, you can just move the pillow to the other side to not deal with rotation. But given the age of that mattress, it'd almost certainly be healthier to sleep on your back on the floor. Can you get an air mattress? Even that'd be better than nothing.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In January I moved all my 401k funds to a vangaurd stable fund which mostly invested in money markets. My 401k is somehow up from April 1st by a few %. Thinking of reallocating to take advantage of Trump's inevitable reversal.

My guess is he will do it piecemeal as countries cave to his attempt at soliciting bribes. So the market as a whole wont recover all at once. When I see he is starting to reverse individual tariffs, that's when I'll do the reallocation. But until then I think there is more to lose.

Also I shorted Elmo and cashed out high enough to cover the losses on the rest of my portfolio. So somehow I didn't get turbofucked by them this time.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I bought European defense stocks so I get happy whatever he says.

Jokes aside about 30k maybe? Not sold anything and I did not care enough to check. Hopefully he does not get to stay in office for another 4 years. I'll just buy more meanwhile.

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[–] immutable@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

$100k when I checked on Friday. Not going to check again, that way madness lies.

An entire lifetime of work, living modestly, saving, funding my retirement accounts, paying a financial advisor to help me make responsible decisions.

Blown up by that orange turd.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Untill you sell, you haven't actually lost anything tangiable.

What I mean is that the market can absolutely bounce back once the situation is stabilized again, if you have time and resources, it might be worth riding this out.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I haven't looked, but I cut the US out of my portfolio well before this. Probably some, but not too much, and I like my prospects once the tariff selloff is over. Actually, if I can swing it through an available institution I might go even shorter on the US with equity futures.

[–] duckworthy36@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I retired early in September. I lost about 30k. I put this years Roth investment into a cd that doesn’t mature for 3 years because I knew what was coming.

It’s strange but now that I’m not working the loss bothers me less. I think I hated my job so much losing money made me feel like all that hard work and misery was futile.

Luckily, I don’t plan to live off my retirement investments for another 10 years. I reduced my cost of living by building a tiny house, and living super minimally. I live on what could qualify me for food stamps in my city. Instead I have a garden and I grow food.

I have a part time side business that pays most of my expenses and it tends to do better even with economic turmoil because it’s cheaper than buying imports. Sales are up 10% over the same time last year.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Aren't the stock markets supposed to recover from a crisis like this, as they always did in the past?

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If it doesn't everyone will have more to worry about than the worth of their 401k.

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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago

Underrated approach.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Not a penny. I dumped my meager stocks in November and I shit you not rolled them over into a bunch of nonperishable food

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