Alienates voter base by refusing to meet constituent demands or running a proper primary
"It must be these damn 3rd party voters, that's why we lost every single swing state"
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Alienates voter base by refusing to meet constituent demands or running a proper primary
"It must be these damn 3rd party voters, that's why we lost every single swing state"
I feel sorry for Americans. The best of the 2 viable parties is a party keen on supplying a genocide, and somehow if you vote 3rd party you're more responsible than said genocide suppliers, even worse republicans, and non-voters. That's wild.
The uncomfortable reality is that you aren't gonna solve your country's problems in the voting booths. Good luck to you, genuinely.
The uncomfortable reality is that you aren’t gonna solve your country’s problems in the voting booths
Until the majority of liberals in our country realize this, it's doubtful our problems will be solved at all
3rd party voters aren't worse non voters, and definitely are not worse than maga voters. If you honestly couldn't stomach voting for the Dems, that's your right and your choice. If you have accepted the consequences of your actions, then I can disagree with you but I don't hate you.
The only ones worse than maga are the public masterbators who try to pretend like the Democrats made them do it, or how they were doing something noble, or teaching the Dems a lesson.
I am not the type to kink shame people, but I really don't want to be part of whatever weird masochistic justice warrior public flagellation shit they are trying to get off to. I didn't and I don't consent, so they can fuck right off that shit.
I mean, from an outsider point of view, it looks like people who voted a 3rd party voted for what they believed. People who voted dems voted against what they believed trying to win and then are projecting some "justice warrior" idea onto who voted what they actually wanted to vote. I rarely see someone saying they voted 3rd party, but I often see it used as a scorn by dems... I doubt people would brag about it since it basically makes people react like you: "I don't hate you" proceeds to insult an imaginary justice warrior that is supposedly voting a 3rd party lol
Your lack of observation or reading comprehension doesn't negate the validity of what many of us saw and experienced, nor does reduce how gross and weird it was/is.
Up until a couple weeks ago, I would see 3-4 posts a day were someone would try to highjack a popular post by posting ragebate aimed at Dems. Often in posts about whatever stupid shit Trump was currently doing at that moment. Or they would start their own post with something obviously intended to get people to respond. After they got someone hooked, they would pick a nonsenseical position, usually claiming that they voted 3rd party because they were too upset with the how they were trying to save the Palestinians from the murderous Dems.
Was it a bunch of people, one or two people with multiple accounts, or maybe a group a acting in concert, I don't know. But no matter who it was, it soon became obvious that they weren't here to argue their position or try to change minds, they were just here to argue and inflame. They were obviously looking for to make people angry and get yelled at. At first it seemed like the normal trolls, but then it began to be obvious that it wasn't about just fucking with people for amusement, it was about achieving something. It was about hitting some goal that satisfied them and then they would start over again in some other post.
I am not happy with 3rd party voters, and I strongly disagree with any arguments that they had any affect other than helping Trump win. But they put in the effort, and did their civic duty. But you are correct, those types of people wouldn't be in here bragging about being fooled, or how stupid they are. I could believe at first that they were trying alleviate some shame or guilt, but no... The ones that are gross and weird about, the ones still occasionally trying to start shit, those are the ones we all hate more than even the maga.
Wow, all those third-party voters are really grumpy in these comments.
Keep trashing them, that will bring em over.
They need to understand that their logic is flawed. If they won’t, they will not make the right choice anyhow.
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Well. Facts didn't work. Pleading with them didn't work. Now we all have to suffer because of their stupidity.
Yeah, I'm moving on to calling them fucking idiots.
I've spent countless hours trying to logically explain basic concepts to conservatives and 3rd party voters, some of whom are my actual friends and family, so I treat them with respect when I speak to them.
Trust me when I say you are NOT going to convert them.
The only hope is catching people with logic and facts when they're young and first developing their political opinions.
Our economy is now tanking because of these fools. Yet another economic crisis in my lifetime. Fuck them. I'm sick of their pathetic, stupid shit.
Did you try fielding a decent candidate? No. You brought pro genocide candidates. There's no logic to fix that, my friend. The DNC and RNC defend their funders, and third party voters understand this.
Boggles my mind how all these people desperately trying to whip everyone into supporting the two-party system, just assume that third-party voters and non-voters automatically owe their vote to their party. The sheer vanity and arrogance of it.
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36LT4WK
Third-Party votes were not the balance of this election. That is complete and utter lie on your part. Even if every single Third Party voter voted for Harris she would not have had enough votes to win. Not that Libertarians were going to go for her in any case.
FYI, the article you are posting is from November 2024, when all the votes weren't counted yet.
The final numbers show Trump with 2.3 million more votes. 77.3 million (49.8%) vs 75 million (48.3%) of the total vote. Third part candidates, including write-ins, were 2.13% of the vote. 2.97 million people voted third party or write in. This is also not counting the 90 million that didn't vote but where registered.
So no, you are wrong. If every single third party voter voted Harris, she would have won.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
She would have won the popular vote. Not necessarily the election.
Our economy is now tanking because of these fools
Funny how these accusations were relatively absent for the last three months while visa and green card holders were shipped off to labor camps in El Salvador, but as soon as Trump does some shit to tank the economy, that's when the knives come out
Liberals will defend the same problematic capital structures as republicans - change my mind.
So by that logic, third party voters were fine with visa and green card holders being shipped out in the same way they're ok with tariffs making the U.S. the enemy of the world except for "liberals" complaining about their poor choice and making them feel bad.
Wasn't much of a concern when voting though.
I'm not going to blame the 3rd party voters. At least they voted.
Put your anger towards those who couldn't even be bothered to do so.
How about both?
Yeah, non-voters are the dumbest of the dumb. Period.
But if you voted 3rd party in a PRESIDENTIAL election, you're a goddamn idiot.
It basically means they don’t understand the rules of the game. If they are willing to learn, cool, but many are not.
No? My vote for President literally does not matter in California. I voted for Harris because Fuck Trump, but my vote doesn't mean shit in this state. I literally have more value voting 3rd party than I do for either major candidate because of how the Federal Election Funding requirements work for 3rd parties.