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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well. Facts didn't work. Pleading with them didn't work. Now we all have to suffer because of their stupidity.

Yeah, I'm moving on to calling them fucking idiots.

I've spent countless hours trying to logically explain basic concepts to conservatives and 3rd party voters, some of whom are my actual friends and family, so I treat them with respect when I speak to them.

Trust me when I say you are NOT going to convert them.

The only hope is catching people with logic and facts when they're young and first developing their political opinions.

Our economy is now tanking because of these fools. Yet another economic crisis in my lifetime. Fuck them. I'm sick of their pathetic, stupid shit.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Did you try fielding a decent candidate? No. You brought pro genocide candidates. There's no logic to fix that, my friend. The DNC and RNC defend their funders, and third party voters understand this.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca -4 points 21 hours ago

Boggles my mind how all these people desperately trying to whip everyone into supporting the two-party system, just assume that third-party voters and non-voters automatically owe their vote to their party. The sheer vanity and arrogance of it.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36LT4WK

Third-Party votes were not the balance of this election. That is complete and utter lie on your part. Even if every single Third Party voter voted for Harris she would not have had enough votes to win. Not that Libertarians were going to go for her in any case.

[–] Iceman@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Hey! Facts are only a thing when i get to say it!!!

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

FYI, the article you are posting is from November 2024, when all the votes weren't counted yet.

The final numbers show Trump with 2.3 million more votes. 77.3 million (49.8%) vs 75 million (48.3%) of the total vote. Third part candidates, including write-ins, were 2.13% of the vote. 2.97 million people voted third party or write in. This is also not counting the 90 million that didn't vote but where registered.

So no, you are wrong. If every single third party voter voted Harris, she would have won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Except no, you probably should have read more closely. Yes more votes were counted later, the vast vast majority of them from the West Coast. In the swing States that actually decide the election, not the popular vote, the numbers did not change significantly. If every single voter who voted third party, which again is a stupid thing to assume they all would have voted for her considering the Libertarians were the second largest block, she still would have lost the election.

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 0 points 22 hours ago

She would have won the popular vote. Not necessarily the election.