How relatable. He who hasn't ever accidentally shared classified information about military strikes with a random journalist using a commercial chat app on a private phone, let him first cast a stone at them.
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I mean, I haven't, but that's because I don't play Warthunder.
(Signal isn't a commercial app. It's free as in freedom, free as in beer, and free as in "there's no data kept on you to possibly sell". The Signal Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, and the Signal app's development and running costs are funded through the Signal Foundation. Please stop using this "commercial app" line.)
That's still commercial. You looked all that up and neglected the definition of commercial and commerce. Non-profits can be commercial and they also might not be, this one however is actually involved in commerce.
We have not all done this. We are not all breaking the law and trying to hide our government actions in a group chat.
I have definitely never sent a text or Signal message to the wrong person or group as well. It's actually not hard to simply look at the recipient(s) before you compose a message. You even have the opportunity to double-check the message recipient(s) before you hit Send.
I'm gonna be an age-bigot for a moment and say this is mostly a problem for Boomers and Zoomers.
...we've all violated national security oaths and SCIF protocol?..yeah, no...
What the fuck headline is that. No, we haven't done that, because we're careful about that shit.
Way to normalize a massive failure of leadership and criminal act, USA Today.
Well, the newspaper is certainly living up to its name.
!That’s why the Trump administration’s Signalgate blunder was all anyone could talk about on news shows and social media, in workplaces, even in schools, said New York University psychology professor Tessa West.
Even West’s 11-year-old son came home from school Monday and confessed that he, too, had once added the wrong person to a group chat. “Mommy I did that, I did exactly what those Trump people did,” he told her.
“For 11-year-old boys, this is the most relatable thing that the Trump administration has done, which just shows you just how ubiquitous this experience is from Slack channels to group chats,” West said. “We’ve all done this.”!<
What a trash article. It reads like propaganda. This kind of reporting is frustrating. Framing a serious security breach—like the Trump administration's Signal group chat blunder—as relatable because “even an 11-year-old has done it” feels disingenuous at best. Using a child’s anecdote to soften the impact of a significant government mistake trivializes the issue and distracts from the consequences of the breach.
We’re not talking about accidentally texting the wrong person in a school group chat. We’re talking about high-level officials mistakenly including someone in a discussion tied to sensitive military operations. That’s not “relatable”—that’s a failure in operational security, and it deserves scrutiny, not spin.
We're also talking about high-level people illegally using a non-qualified app to avoid federal record keeping laws.
uh no i've never accidentally added a journalist to a group chat while laughing about bombing people in the middle east.
You gotta admit, though, that 11-year-old boy might make a good Secretary of Defense after this one.
Trying to fucking normalize this, complicit media bitch. What a shit article.
We've all bombed Yemen!
We've all done it.
I might even bomb Yemen next month… I mean I’m not going to tell a reporter about it, though, I’m not as stupid as an 11-year-old boy.
Except my chats are not subject to public records act laws for oversight and public information, so if I choose to keep them off record it's not illegal.
signalgate blunder
Can we fucking not add “-gate” to the end of everything that happens? It’s so overused that it diminishes the importance of actually-dangerous events like this one.
It all started with that Watergategate scandal.
What happens if we have a scandal about water?
Hydrogate
Rolls off the tongue better than aquagate would, that's for sure.
Avoiding hackneyed terms would literally be a Game Changer!
It's nothing, just a little bit of light treason.
Those are balls.
It's true, I accidently share top secret information about bombing apartments every now and again. Whoopsie daisy.
I can’t think of a time when I added the wrong person to a group chat. I’m sure it’s happened, but probably not in the past 10-15 years.
And my online chats are pretty low-stakes, so it’s not like I’m trying very hard.
umm, no. I use work chats for work, and personal chats for personal. I might accidentally add the wrong colleague to a work chat, or wrong friend to a personal chat, but I'm never going to accidentally add a friend to a work chat because I don't mix work and personal chats.
This article goes to great lengths to make it appear as if something hugely important really isn’t that big a deal. No, it’s not “relatable”. No, it isn’t “something we’ve all done”. This is treason.
They broke countless laws, protocols, and regulations that were put in place for good reason, by people who were clearly much more careful and intelligent than them. Still, even these stupid, arrogant assholes should have known better.
I will never read this MAGA apologist garbage again.
The secretary of defense is the one who decides what's classified as he is the head of the DoD.
With that being said I think it is kind of expected that the secretary of defense is not the point of weakness.
This is such a BS.
I actually feel like this wasn't an accident and he invited him on purpose to expose this scandal as his position is a National Security Advisor and what they are doing is outrageous from security standpoint.
All media concentrated on that a journalist was present in the chat, when the real issue is them using Signal on personal phones to communicate sensitive information.
Totally relatable, I often create group chats about conducting air strikes on foreign countries for me and my colleagues, it's just so easy and efficient. I once almost invited someone from our HOA to it, but I luckily spotted her immediately and removed her again. No worries.
I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a girl he met in a restaurant...
who then turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist...
only to lose her to her childhood lover...
who she'd last seen on a deserted island...
and who turned out, 15 years later, to be the leader of the French underground.
That sounds like some Kojima level shit right there. Just needs a giant mech threatening a nuclear strike.
Sorry but you don't get to have something you do be "relatable" after you've tried to end somebody's career over a milder version of it.
We've all screwed up on a text message.
We haven't all chosen to use an insecure app for sensitive military operations to avoid foia requests to hide future treason charges and then screwed up a text message.
It is relatable when it's your friends and family. When it's your work, especially secure work, there are no excuses. It's why organizations hire specialists to manage this sort of thing.
I don’t think we’ve all shared details of classified military operations in real time actually, that’s pretty much just a US government official thing.
I did once send a message to the childminder parents group that was meant for my wife. It referenced a porn movie series we watched, called Oil Overload, for which the new one had just come out. I think the message read something like 'OIL OVERLOAD 14!!! YEEHA'. No one mentioned it, but I'm sure they knew.
Wow. USA today is complete Nazi propaganda good to know
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal.
Up next: And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
The narcissist prayer, AKA Trump cabinet's mantra
USA Today working overtime for its shareholders.
I'm sure my company's policies are nothing special and lots of companies have similar policies. I'm not allowed to do anything work related on my personal devices, only on the company issued and managed laptop and only through the company VPN. I'm also not allowed to discuss internal information on whatever app I want, just on company approved software, which is managed by the company's IT team. All software or other type of 3rd party used in the company has to first go through infosec approval.
This is a standard tech company not working on anything particularly sensitive for anyone other than potential competition and maybe shareholders. Definitely not anything involving national security.
So no, not relatable. This is how people get fired.