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[–] manucode@infosec.pub 147 points 4 days ago (4 children)

How relatable. He who hasn't ever accidentally shared classified information about military strikes with a random journalist using a commercial chat app on a private phone, let him first cast a stone at them.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago

I mean, I haven't, but that's because I don't play Warthunder.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

(Signal isn't a commercial app. It's free as in freedom, free as in beer, and free as in "there's no data kept on you to possibly sell". The Signal Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, and the Signal app's development and running costs are funded through the Signal Foundation. Please stop using this "commercial app" line.)

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (10 children)

That's still commercial. You looked all that up and neglected the definition of commercial and commerce. Non-profits can be commercial and they also might not be, this one however is actually involved in commerce.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 83 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We have not all done this. We are not all breaking the law and trying to hide our government actions in a group chat.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I have definitely never sent a text or Signal message to the wrong person or group as well. It's actually not hard to simply look at the recipient(s) before you compose a message. You even have the opportunity to double-check the message recipient(s) before you hit Send.

I'm gonna be an age-bigot for a moment and say this is mostly a problem for Boomers and Zoomers.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 44 points 3 days ago

...we've all violated national security oaths and SCIF protocol?..yeah, no...

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

What the fuck headline is that. No, we haven't done that, because we're careful about that shit.

[–] ChristmasApe@discuss.online 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Way to normalize a massive failure of leadership and criminal act, USA Today.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago

Well, the newspaper is certainly living up to its name.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

!That’s why the Trump administration’s Signalgate blunder was all anyone could talk about on news shows and social media, in workplaces, even in schools, said New York University psychology professor Tessa West.

Even West’s 11-year-old son came home from school Monday and confessed that he, too, had once added the wrong person to a group chat. “Mommy I did that, I did exactly what those Trump people did,” he told her.

“For 11-year-old boys, this is the most relatable thing that the Trump administration has done, which just shows you just how ubiquitous this experience is from Slack channels to group chats,” West said. “We’ve all done this.”!<

What a trash article. It reads like propaganda. This kind of reporting is frustrating. Framing a serious security breach—like the Trump administration's Signal group chat blunder—as relatable because “even an 11-year-old has done it” feels disingenuous at best. Using a child’s anecdote to soften the impact of a significant government mistake trivializes the issue and distracts from the consequences of the breach.

We’re not talking about accidentally texting the wrong person in a school group chat. We’re talking about high-level officials mistakenly including someone in a discussion tied to sensitive military operations. That’s not “relatable”—that’s a failure in operational security, and it deserves scrutiny, not spin.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

We're also talking about high-level people illegally using a non-qualified app to avoid federal record keeping laws.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

uh no i've never accidentally added a journalist to a group chat while laughing about bombing people in the middle east.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 days ago

You gotta admit, though, that 11-year-old boy might make a good Secretary of Defense after this one.

[–] filt@infosec.pub 30 points 4 days ago

Trying to fucking normalize this, complicit media bitch. What a shit article.

[–] davesmith@feddit.uk 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We've all bombed Yemen!

We've all done it.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 days ago

I might even bomb Yemen next month… I mean I’m not going to tell a reporter about it, though, I’m not as stupid as an 11-year-old boy.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 26 points 4 days ago

Except my chats are not subject to public records act laws for oversight and public information, so if I choose to keep them off record it's not illegal.

[–] KamikazeRusher@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

signalgate blunder

Can we fucking not add “-gate” to the end of everything that happens? It’s so overused that it diminishes the importance of actually-dangerous events like this one.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It all started with that Watergategate scandal.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What happens if we have a scandal about water?

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Rolls off the tongue better than aquagate would, that's for sure.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Avoiding hackneyed terms would literally be a Game Changer!

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's nothing, just a little bit of light treason.

[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Those are balls.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

It's true, I accidently share top secret information about bombing apartments every now and again. Whoopsie daisy.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can’t think of a time when I added the wrong person to a group chat. I’m sure it’s happened, but probably not in the past 10-15 years.

And my online chats are pretty low-stakes, so it’s not like I’m trying very hard.

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[–] l_b_i@pawb.social 14 points 4 days ago

umm, no. I use work chats for work, and personal chats for personal. I might accidentally add the wrong colleague to a work chat, or wrong friend to a personal chat, but I'm never going to accidentally add a friend to a work chat because I don't mix work and personal chats.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This article goes to great lengths to make it appear as if something hugely important really isn’t that big a deal. No, it’s not “relatable”. No, it isn’t “something we’ve all done”. This is treason.

They broke countless laws, protocols, and regulations that were put in place for good reason, by people who were clearly much more careful and intelligent than them. Still, even these stupid, arrogant assholes should have known better.

I will never read this MAGA apologist garbage again.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

The secretary of defense is the one who decides what's classified as he is the head of the DoD.

With that being said I think it is kind of expected that the secretary of defense is not the point of weakness.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is such a BS.

I actually feel like this wasn't an accident and he invited him on purpose to expose this scandal as his position is a National Security Advisor and what they are doing is outrageous from security standpoint.

All media concentrated on that a journalist was present in the chat, when the real issue is them using Signal on personal phones to communicate sensitive information.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 days ago

Totally relatable, I often create group chats about conducting air strikes on foreign countries for me and my colleagues, it's just so easy and efficient. I once almost invited someone from our HOA to it, but I luckily spotted her immediately and removed her again. No worries.

[–] DABDA@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm not the first guy who fell in love with a girl he met in a restaurant...
who then turned out to be the daughter of a kidnapped scientist...
only to lose her to her childhood lover...
who she'd last seen on a deserted island...
and who turned out, 15 years later, to be the leader of the French underground.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

That sounds like some Kojima level shit right there. Just needs a giant mech threatening a nuclear strike.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Sorry but you don't get to have something you do be "relatable" after you've tried to end somebody's career over a milder version of it.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

We've all screwed up on a text message.

We haven't all chosen to use an insecure app for sensitive military operations to avoid foia requests to hide future treason charges and then screwed up a text message.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

It is relatable when it's your friends and family. When it's your work, especially secure work, there are no excuses. It's why organizations hire specialists to manage this sort of thing.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

I don’t think we’ve all shared details of classified military operations in real time actually, that’s pretty much just a US government official thing.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I did once send a message to the childminder parents group that was meant for my wife. It referenced a porn movie series we watched, called Oil Overload, for which the new one had just come out. I think the message read something like 'OIL OVERLOAD 14!!! YEEHA'. No one mentioned it, but I'm sure they knew.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wow. USA today is complete Nazi propaganda good to know

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal.

Up next: And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

The narcissist prayer, AKA Trump cabinet's mantra

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

USA Today working overtime for its shareholders.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sure my company's policies are nothing special and lots of companies have similar policies. I'm not allowed to do anything work related on my personal devices, only on the company issued and managed laptop and only through the company VPN. I'm also not allowed to discuss internal information on whatever app I want, just on company approved software, which is managed by the company's IT team. All software or other type of 3rd party used in the company has to first go through infosec approval.

This is a standard tech company not working on anything particularly sensitive for anyone other than potential competition and maybe shareholders. Definitely not anything involving national security.

So no, not relatable. This is how people get fired.

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