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IANAL, but because this was done on a third party encrypted chat app, doesn't it also violate the federal records act or something? If this was any other administration they would have been launched out of a cannon for that alone, not just the breach in security.
Absolutely. Not to mention that organizing a fucking battle plan on a non-government communications system is fucking insane.
I anal too, but I think as long as they do submit the conversion to the record which they now still can if it didn't self delete, then they're covered. They can also declassify all of it and say "see?" like Trump did with the classified documents he stole for Mar a Lago.
Signal isn't on an approved list, but the federal records act really just said there will be a council headed by an administrator or whatever to make rules and collect the records. So the current administrator, which could be a vacant seat or a MAGA Hat for all I know right now, would be in charge of this, and probably just hand it over to congress.
The messages were set to auto-delete after a week, which imo reduces the likelihood that the messages will be recorded.
But the guy in the chat with them immediately informed them that he'd been in there, which gave them time to act
No, not for top secret stuff. That needs to be taken to official, secure channels.
I'm not personally into the idea of ANAL, but I like how its simultaneously not classified info, and also they've forbidden the journalist from sharing it further ...because its classified info.
I also ANAL. Those boys done fucked up but likely won't see consequences.
"those boys done fucked up but"
Yes, this is ANAL
Yes. Unless they forwarded them in a secure way immediately. Which there's like zero chance was the plan.
That's why they're using Signal. If this while thing collapses on them, they don't want written records of their criminal conspiracies.
Resign? They should be in jail. They used signal to get around FOIA laws.
Right! Resigning is not enough! If a regular person leaked secrets they would face more damning consequences.
"It's classified" is a nice catch-all excuse to use when you just don't want to answer for your actions.
Trump literally just got finished broadcasting and tweeting about flights that were deporting Venezuelans, topping it off with an "Oopise" taunt. But when he's brought in front of a judge and is expected to answer for that.......Sorry, classified. State secrets.
Trump's team talks about bombing the shit out of Yemen, then goes and bombs the shit out of Yemen. And is now trying to say they didn't talk about anything classified while talking about bombing the shit out of Yemen during a signal chat without even a hint of realization that the entire conversation was classified. Talking about impending war plans IS FUCKING CLASSIFIED BY DEFAULT YOU FUCKING CHODES
Oh, are we "shredding" instead of "slamming" now? An even better idea: acting on it
Why? They LEARNED their Lessons! Unlike HILARYS EMAILS!
The Committee can always ask The Atlantic for the transcripts. I have no doubts they will hand them over.
Every politician in that chat should be impeached. I know it won't remove them from office because the fucking Republicans lose even the pretext of ethics when one of their own is in trouble, but it should still be pushed to a vote.
Its funny because republicans clearly do not give a shit about the rules and will continue to do whatever they want. And the dems made little signs to show they are unhappy. All while murica has fallen!
"Top democrats shout at wall."
No one's picking up the phone morons. It's time for pitchforks.
tulsi is doing what she is told by kremlin.
Why does tulsi choose to look like she steals Dalmatian puppies on the weekends?