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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Chick-fill-A and Hobby Lobby are part of the same asshole Christian subspecies, do crazy shit like stealing/buying stolen artifacts, and being super anti-gay and anti-trans.

Oh and Chick-fil-A's did is trash. I tried it before I learned the company sucked, not long after it first moved into Chicagoland. Not only is the chicken bland AF - including the "spicy" chicken - but they managed to somehow make waffle fries taste bleh. How the hell do you even fuck up waffle fries? I can't understand how these assholes stay in business in the area with chicken that's worse than what I can get at Burger King, much less any of a million small local places and chains.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Chick-fil-A is actually pretty good near me. I get them once a month or once every other month or so.

In terms of fast food, I'd definitely say there's in the top 20% in terms of food quality.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“Mormons, Inc.”

[–] MrBlack@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Granicus

Unknown to most, but they maintain a large number of local, state, and all the way up to Federal US public websites. They have quickly relocated their entire US based team outside of sales to underdeveloped countries over the last year for a very specific reason... And also unbeknownst to most of their clients.

Last year they brought in MS and Amazon CEO brains that have been turning things upside down for a quick flip ever since. These type of people need to BURN.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago

Pharmaceutical company Bayer. Sold HIV infected blood to poorer countries because they didn’t want to lose the investment they had in the blood.

Basically the blood was tested, found out it was HIV contaminated, went to a part of the world where they didn’t test as well. Messed with the results of the tests, and infected thousands of people with it, and eventually AIDS. All because the financial loss they would have taken from destroying the blood was considered too much.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Palantir is pretty core to the Surveillance Society in several supposedly Democratic countries. More in general just about all companies in that space such as the NSO Group makers of the Pegasus software for remote hacking of smartphones are invariably unethical

Similarly the whole business of Investment Banking is pretty unethical, and that definitely includes most Hedge Funds, the latter never being household names.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think the question already contains a sort of ideological trap: it assumes that a specific company can be uniquely evil, as if morality were some trait that varies between company to company.

I'm sure everyone's heard this before:

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

It's not just a slogan. It gives us insight into the very structure of capitalism. That doesn't mean every individual act is equally bad, but the system demands a sort of baseline complicity.

CEOs and executives are legally required to maximize shareholder profits. Not just encouraged— legally obligated. So when Coca-Cola, for example, hires paramilitary death squads to kill labor leaders in Colombia, it's not because it is uniquely monstrous. Replace Coca-Cola with Pepsi, or Nestle, or Amazon, or Raytheon.. whatever. The logic of the system would produce the same result. If I gave the same chess position to 30 different Grandmasters.. if there is a best move they will all see it and choose that best move.

Think of an ant colony. An ant colony doesn't decide to be cruel; it expands, consumes, protects its territory, destroys threats. Is it evil when some colony wipes out another for resources? A colony committing what we could term ant genocide? No it's not. The colony is simply acting in its nature. Much like a slime mold would expand in a radius looking for food in a petri dish.

Large corporations are like ant colonies. Complex emergent behavior resulting from a large number of individual units acting by a set of rules. The intelligence or perspective of the individual does not actually matter for the organism as a whole. As long as the individual units follow a set of rules it creates a sort of "hive-mind" pseudo-intelligence that acts in its own interests and has an almost Darwinist natural selection process.

So this is all to say that I reject the question. I don't believe in uniquely evil companies. The horror is precisely that they're all, in a sense, innocent. They act not out of hatred or sadism or cruelty, but because the system itself has carved out the pathways where the ball inevitably rolls down the hill following the path of least resistance.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HSBC - how many times can a bank be caught laundering dirty money and still exist?

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indeed, amazing how KYC is pointless. I feel like the finance industry is very good at packaging things in very appealing terms ... yet do exactly the opposite of what it claims.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

KYC is not at all pointless. It allows existing monopolise to remain entrenched.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, in fact while writing my comment that's what I had in mind, namely how can it not only do the opposite of what it claims BUT making it harder for smaller players to contest the "winners" setting up the rules. Wonderful. /s

[–] JollyG@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Prenda law. A legal outfit that would seed porn and then sue downloaders for copyright violations. The idea being that people would settle to avoid being publicly humiliated by their porn viewing habits.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Generally the larger the company the more evil it is as a general rule, so a lesser known evil company would be unlikely. That's why I'm supportive of a strong democratic federal government, the natural predator of companies.

There is a US company that I understand the importance of so I won't share the details but very few know anything about them. I'll just say they make products used for arts and crafts, celebrations, and also Nuclear Weapons.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

All restaurants

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I worked for an investment firm that had about 75 employees, but managed $35 billion in assets. There are a lot of those. Their investments tended to be a lot of the companies ruining the world, ranging from the privatized ambulance companies to the privatized hospice care companies to the emerging-market banks, etc...etc... And that's just one "small" investment firm.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

College Board. Maker of the SAT

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Fuck College Board with a rake. Seriously awful when college is already so expensive.

[–] PlutoVolcano@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Bank of New York Melon

GNC. The vitamin stores. They knowingly sell expired merchandise and withhold commissions from their employees.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Red Bull, they are nazis and spread fake news about conspiracy theories on their own TV network in Austria. Source

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn we need open source redbull

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

There are several RedBull type generic syrups you can buy as a bag-in-box

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Are there really? I have a soda stream but all the syrups I've seen were like diet versions of stuff. Do you have an example you can link to?

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 day ago

I go to Penny, a discount, for that. Varying names, same shit, way more cheap.

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[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Knauf. They produce drywall boards, among other building materials. You probably dwell a home where these products are built in. Excerpt from linked Wikipedia article:

In 2022, after the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, Yale University published a list of companies that chose to remain active in Russia. According to this report, over 600 companies have withdrawn from Russia — but some remain. Knauf is still operating across 14 sites in Russia but has claimed to have suspended new investments.[5].
In November 2023 Ukraine listed Knauf as an International Sponsor of War for promoting mobilisation in Russia by sending its employees to the war against Ukraine.[6].
According to German public-service broadcaster ARD, Knauf has been active in collaborating with the Russian military in its construction efforts in the Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine.[7][8]

Another source (German), 2024 states, that due to investigation of a news outlet, they allegedly withdrew their actions.

Withdrawal in response to ARD investigation?
Only recently, the plaster company from Lower Franconia hit the headlines because of its activities in Russia: Research by the ARD magazine “Monitor” suggested that Knauf had violated EU sanctions against Russia. Whether the withdrawal from Russia is connected to the allegations made was neither confirmed nor denied by the company to BR24 today and a press spokeswoman did not wish to comment on the matter in response to a written request.

They probably wanted to have a foot in the door when it comes to rebuilding, when the war will be over finally.

Another, probably more known company is Claas, a manufacturer of farming equipment like combine harvesters and such. Another source (German), 2023 claims

The company condemns Russia's attack on Ukraine, said Mohr. Nevertheless, Claas cannot and does not want to withdraw from one of the world's most important agricultural regions. “Both countries are enormously important for feeding the world's population. That's why farming must continue there,” Mohr told the SZ newspaper, adding that harvesting machines were essential for this.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

REI. Just another corporation in a "Good Guy" costume. https://www.ourrei.com/2025-rei-board-elections

Union busting, problematic supply chains, pulling PPE from staff. Hell, officially supporting Trump’s pick for Secretary of the Interior because I guess they can't help themselves.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh fuck I just joined their lifetime membership. Is it possible to get that money back, why is every company owned by cunts. I thought REI was a Co OP?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Don't know about getting money back, but it is something of a coop. My link includes a recommendation to vote "withhold" in the current election, why they recommend the action, and how to do so.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

They're in the middle of a board election, all members get a vote. The union endorses none of the nominees, and suggests you vote for "none of the above".

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[–] kugel7c@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

KPMG, Deloitte and Mc Kinsey, for reasons that include at times being both financial auditor and bookkeeping at the same time, and consultancy meaning reducing headcount no matter the cost.

I don't really know all that much about it honestly but all I've heard of them, is that they get the smartest people to do the worst thing that they can get away with.

[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Mc Kinsey are the guys who invented and popularised the idea of executive bonuses for short term company performance and the idea of layoffs to temporarily make those companies look like they're doing better. They've also consulted for all of the most evil companies in this thread while they were doing their most evil shit. They constantly do the most courpt stuff imaginable. Often their advice creates massive problems which they will then sell their services to the people cleaning up their mess.

They've consulted for hostile nations while being paid by the US government to give advice on how to deal with those hostile governments.

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