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Just in case the plane is not recognized immediatly, it's the PW-MK.I from Project Wingman, cool video game, I recommend it for the planes, the music and the memes.

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[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

6th generation, 7th generation... when will we have the love generation?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter how maneuverable a plane is when the human pilot is the limiting factor. UAVs are the future for air combat now.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

A human can't handle negative Gs, a computer can. That alone gives uavs a huge maneuver advantage.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 21 points 2 days ago

But they were all of them deceived. For in secret, another generation of fighter was forged. And in it he poured all his stealth, all his sensor packages, and all his missiles.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pffft... I'm building a 12th generation fighter in my garage. It'll be called the F-9000 SuperThunderLightningHog. You just wait and see!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

HOW CRANKABLE WOULD YOU SAY THE F9000 IS

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

ARROOOOOOOOOO!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

puts credible defense hat on

But you know, stealth isn’t the be-all, end-all, really. The Navy’s been dragging their feet on 35 procurement for a while, more heavily emphasizing Rhinos and Growlers. Growlers have an absolutely silly amount of extremely advanced ECM and EW hardware onboard. The general doctrine for USN in peer conflicts right now is to just jam the absolute shit out out anything that’s making unfriendly electronic noises around it and then kill the things with prejudice. Don’t need stealth when you just straight up blind the enemy. Definitely more of a brute force approach, but it’s absolutely valid.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Putting on my brewing hat

Growlers are pretty good. Drunk in one bottle

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Problem is that makes the growler a huge target. It can't really hide when it's emitting so much. It can be somewhat further back, but it'll still need to be pretty close to the action to be effective jamming.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. The growler is great when it's emitters outrange the enemy missiles, not so much when they don't.

Now granted, I dont think I'm smarter than the entire US Navy, so they probably thought of this too, but it seems like a big issue to me.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe US doctrine is to overwhelm the enemy's air force and air defense within an hour and establish air dominance. There is no way to do that stealthily.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It can hide among decoy drones.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The decoy drones would need to be emitting too, or it'd need to stop emitting for a while once the missile gets close. But that is a pretty good idea.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

ADM-160 MALD does serve that purpose and has been in service for a bit.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago

All generations are made up

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is that art actually from the game? The cockpit and the rest of the plane aren't at the same angle of roll, and the canards aren't lined up

Edit: no it isn't, it's from this person on deviantart who has a whole bunch of AI anthro pokemon waifus on their profile

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

That's the extra gen. Wings roll, body stays upright. We are beyond science.

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 days ago

Weak, real military would skip at least two generations.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since when did Tahiti have extensive high-tech manufacturing capacity?

[–] Vryoptic@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Well it is a magical place you know

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who needs fight jets when you have advanced missile with targetting system that cannot be fooled by chaff and flares?

[–] VoodooMug@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Who needs advanced missiles when you have "Jewish space lasers"!

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Project Wingman is the best Ace Combat game

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it comparable to the H.A.W.X Series? I really liked those but don't have a elaborated controller setup

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never played H.A.W.X., so I can't offer a comparison. As far as elaborate control setups, I played it on Xbox, and a regular controller was plenty sufficient

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Nice, thanks

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

man the top of that add on makes me think gundam and now I want them all to have it.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those mini missile barrages

Then explore the wreckage on a cyclone motorbike

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

gimme some of that sweet sweet protoculture, baby

[–] xwolpertinger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

FAST packs for the win

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You forgot the story! Project wingman had me feeling like I just came back from cascadia when I took my headset off.

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago
[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

@Skua found it on DeviantArt.